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Author: OldGoatOldGoat Date: Mar 29, 2008 14:36
Hey guys,
I accidentally posted this in the dot pain group somehow. Aside from my own
post here, anyone that remembers Marcus- it looks like he's not doing too
great, getting back with the patches which were a nightmare for him, so if
you can, say a little prayer for him, or better yet if you have a good
address on him, drop him a line and remind him we all care about him and
he's far from forgotten.
I now return you to my personal paranoia, already in progress...
For those of you that understand HIPPA laws and have more knowledge of the
doctor patient confidentiality relation than I do (which means everyone
here) is there anything, a statute or statement, that...
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Author: JubaJuba Date: Mar 29, 2008 15:00
OldGoat ERdocsuckYahoo.com> wrote in message:
qDyHj.110$ie3.84@trndny02,
.> So do I want to have my cake and eat it too. Is it foolish to discuss
> with an MD?
Yes. You can ask the doc ahead of time if you can ask him a question
"off the record" but I'd bet the farm that he's not going to agree to
any pot smoking, so why bother?
Medical marijuana prescribing has been sufficiently marginalized, so
that unless you're dying from AIDS or cancer you can't get the same doc
that prescribes opiates to agree to pot as well. They just won't do it.
You can always find a doctor who will prescribe MM but that's all
they'll give you. Unless you have AIDS or cancer it's an "either/or"
Anyone who is subject to drug testing will never get the same doctor's
approval for MM. Even if you get the official OK from another doctor,
the doc that requires the drug testing is not going to overlook testing
positive for pot.
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Author: blindedblinded Date: Mar 29, 2008 17:35
With my previous pain doctor, I saw him for over 25 years (he was also my
hand surgeon)
I would tell him that I did not want it put into the records and he always
honored my request.
He also "edited" my records without my express request. I was looking thru
his notes and found that
he NEVER documented our discussions about suicide.
He did say that I seemed somewhat depressed at the time - or he was
concerned that I may act out in a way that was
not in my best interest
But again, we grew old together
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news:qDyHj.110$ie3.84@trndny02...> Hey guys,
>
> I accidentally posted this in the dot pain group somehow. Aside from my
> own post here,...
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Author: OldGoatOldGoat Date: Mar 29, 2008 17:50
Dear IMH,
I don't know how old you are or the last time you had any exposure, but the
game has changed significantly. Pot is orders of magnitude stronger than my
days of the 70's and 80's. We had the exotic purple...
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Author: TopTop Date: Mar 29, 2008 18:30
On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:36:22 +0000, OldGoat wrote:
> Hey guys,
>
> I accidentally posted this in the dot pain group somehow. Aside from my
> own post here, anyone that remembers Marcus- it looks like he's not
> doing too great, getting back with the patches which were a nightmare
> for him, so if you can, say a little prayer for him, or better yet if
> you have a good address on him, drop him a line and remind him we all
> care about him and he's far from forgotten.
> I now return you to my personal paranoia, already in progress...
>
Thanks for the note about Marcus, I have his number and will give him a call.
> For those of you that understand HIPPA laws and have more knowledge of
> the doctor patient confidentiality relation than I do (which means
> everyone here) is there anything, a statute or statement...
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Author: No_MoneyNo_Money Date: Mar 29, 2008 22:39
On Mar 29, 5:36 pm, "OldGoat" ERdocsuckYahoo.com> wrote:> Hey guys,
>
> I accidentally posted this in the dot pain group somehow. Aside from my own
> post here, anyone that remembers Marcus- it looks like he's not doing too
> great, getting back with the patches which were a nightmare for him, so if
> you can, say a little prayer for him, or better yet if you have a good
> address on him, drop him a line and remind him we all care about him and
> he's far from forgotten.
> I now return you to my personal paranoia, already in progress...
>
> For those of you that understand HIPPA laws and have more knowledge of the
> doctor patient confidentiality relation than I do (which means everyone
> here) is there anything, a statute or statement, that says if you desire to
> discuss an issue with a physician and want no notes taken, no records of the
> conversation, an absolute zero on a particular subject, that you have the
> right to totally restrict a portion of a consultation?
> I can tell you guys, because I am essentially a cipher to most of you. I
> want to ask about using reefer, both as an adjunct to the pain issues, but
> also in the form of an anti depressant. It has been about 25 years since I ...
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Author: LoriB.o.B.LoriB.o.B. Date: Mar 30, 2008 00:39
On Mar 29, 6:30 pm, Top neo.rr.com> wrote:> On Sat, 29 Mar 2008 21:36:22 +0000, OldGoat wrote:
>> Hey guys,
>
>> I accidentally posted this in the dot pain group somehow. Aside from my
>> own post here, anyone that remembers Marcus- it looks like he's not
>> doing too great, getting back with the patches which were a nightmare
>> for him, so if you can, say a little prayer for him, or better yet if
>> you have a good address on him, drop him a line and remind him we all
>> care about him and he's far from forgotten.
>> I now return you to my personal paranoia, already in progress...
>
> Thanks for the note about Marcus, I have his number and will give him a call.
>
>
>
>> For those of you that understand HIPPA laws and have more knowledge of
>> the doctor patient confidentiality relation than I do (which means
>> everyone here) is there anything, a statute or statement, that says if
>> you desire to discuss an issue with a physician and want no notes taken, ...
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Author: Paul T. HollandPaul T. Holland Date: Mar 30, 2008 10:46
og -
my history with docs says that you can't really have a 'total' off the
record.
yes, they are often willing to just 'talk' without entering it into the
paper record, but there simply isn't any way to know ahead of time how
they will react in the long run concerning herb.
'if' [and it's a big unknown if] doc is 'ok' with it, fine, but if not,
then you will forever be under the spotlight and that is when the second
guessing starts about your motives, intent, condition, et al...
you also bring up the legal issue -
our old county attorney doug gansler is now the md state ag, and that he
is known to be a tough law and order advocate on drug issues, it is
almost impossible to know how his office will start reacting to these
issues. but i am not hopeful
given your facilitation of another, and should it ever be necessary, we
have one of the more agressive legal advocates for the md law right here
in silver spring [his office is just a couple of blocks from me, and
he's in the same building as our local center for independent living]
see:
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Author: OldGoatOldGoat Date: Mar 30, 2008 12:58
Dear Paul,
Thanks, man. I had forgotten our fascist A.G. and I fear his idea are not
that far from UBL's goals- a return to the unenlightened days of the 15th
century. We should be up in arms he spend 15 million...
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Author: No_MoneyNo_Money Date: Mar 30, 2008 14:36
On Mar 30, 3:58 pm, "OldGoat" ERdocsuckYahoo.com> wrote:> Dear Paul,
>
> Thanks, man. I had forgotten our fascist A.G. and I fear his idea are not
> that far from UBL's goals- a return to the unenlightened days of the 15th
> century. We should be up in arms he spend 15 million of our tax dollars
> retrying Muhammad and Malvo when they're already looking at the needle in
> Virginia. It just brought him in to the spotlight he lives in and adds
> another layer of appeals for the beltway snipers to use in pushing Judgment
> day back another decade or two. The only good thing I can say about Gantzler
> is that I voted against him. I believe I wrote in Daffy Duck.The results are
> the same in any case. That's why I never leave the house without Barry
> Helfands business card in my wallet.
> I'm going to shock you one of these days, when my energy level is high
> enough, and pop in on you and drag you to lunch. You'll know me by the "old
> goat rules" t-shirt and of course the goatee. I need a trip down your way
> anyhow as they have gutted what few comic stores that there used to be up
> county. So a trip to the Barbarian and Geppi's(if they're still around on
> Fention St) are too close to you not to drop in. It'll be good to kick
> around the old, strange, days. We may not have been there together ...
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