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Group: alt.suicide.holiday · Group Profile
Author: torg
Date: May 10, 2008 14:06

Dirty Rat wrote:
> On May 10, 3:36 pm, torg nospam.com> wrote:
>> Dirty Rat wrote:
>>> On May 10, 3:07 pm, torg nospam.com> wrote:
>>>> Dirty Rat wrote:
>>>>> I just finished a paper on American criminal law in the 19th century,
>>>>> which I'm now tempted to copy and paste. The operative function of the
>>>>> law in the 19th century was as a fault system that generated “rules of
>>>>> liability." The legal system delegitimated even serious injury in
>>>>> people whose behavior was criminalized. I discussed Bartleby and Babo
>>>>> from Melville's "Bartleby, the Scrivener" and "Benito Cereno." These
>>>>> stories register narratives in which characters of questionable
>>>>> criminality are managed as criminals by a legal apparatus. In
>>>>> "Bartleby," an uncooperative yet innocuous scrivener Bartleby, having
>>>>> been charged of no actual crime, is escorted to a criminal
>>>>> institution. In the latter, an incalcitrant Senegalian captive called
>>>>> Babo is criminalized and given a terminal sentence by the Spanish
>>>>> tribunal. In my paper, I examine the ways in which Bartleby and Babo
>>>>> are able to establish a sort of resistance to the formal legal
>>>>> imperatives that regulate their worlds ("Benito Cereno," for example,
>>>>> appends a deposition, and the community in "Bartleby" constantly tries
>>>>> to criminalize his non-criminal obstinancy) and the significance of
>>>>> this resistance. I argue that their narratives are above the law,
>>>>> granting legitimacy in a genre space that is not responsible for the
>>>>> regulation of life or individual subjective identity, I also argue
>>>>> that the law is reinscribed in any legal subject’s reading of these
>>>>> stories and in negotiating the sense of such elided adjudicatory
>>>>> narratives as Babo’s and Bartleby’s. The narratives constitute an
>>>>> alternative space for the potential retrospective construction of
>>>>> formal law.
>>>>> Dirty Rat
>>>> hey, Ratty, that paper was even more vacuous and predestrian than your
>>>> ordinary lies, you're funny- Hide quoted text -
>>>> - Show quoted text -
>>> That wasn't the paper, Torg. And if you actually had anything
>>> validating to say about anything that I actually considered to be
>>> worthwhile, I would critically reassess all kinds of things about my
>>> life.
>>> Dirty Rat
>> you know the more details you give the easier it will be to show your
>> contradictions
>
> If I contradict myself (which I don't know that I've done here), that
> doesn't actually say anything about the veracity of anything I've
> said. Here's a platitude with which you might not be familiar: people
> are complex.

it does, and women are not complex they just lie
>
>> and sockpuppets dont make you a MPD
>
> MPD makes me MPD.
>

you're trying to impress everybody here telling grotesque lies and with
pedestrian intellectual stuff, that's why i suspect you probably lied
about your MPD too
stinky ugly ratty
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