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Group: alt.startrek · Group Profile
Author: Elvis Gump
Date: Dec 4, 2006 06:59

Wouter Valentijn wrote:
> Elvis Gump wrote:
>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>> Elvis Gump wrote:
>>>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> They surely wasted weeks and weeks on shooting, editing and
>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the FX for this and the result is an embarrassing mess.
>>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately we live in the future, so it might only be a
>>>>>>>>>>> matter of time before someone cuts away all the worst parts
>>>>>>>>>>> and digitally replaces them with better ones.
>>>>>>>>> I am very disappointed with the future. I wanted to live on the
>>>>>>>>> Moon. I'd like a refund.
>>>>>>> Yeah, me too. And we already should have a manned Mars expedition
>>>>>>> and manned flights towards the Jupiter and Saturn systems. Not
>>>>>>> fair! Glad though that the moon is still in Earth's orbit. ;-)
>>>>>> You can practically spit and hit the Moon, and we're not living
>>>>>> there yet. It's downright silly.
>>>>> I consider it an insult to the people that worked on the Apollo
>>>>> project. BTW, I remember reading a Clive Cussler novel in which a
>>>>> secret moonbase had been established shortly after the Apollo
>>>>> project ended officially. If only, if only...
>> What was the title of that one BTW? I think I'd like to read that!
>> Only after seeing "Raise the Titanic!" I don't want to see the movie
>> version.
>
> It could be 'Cyclops'...
> I haven't read all of the Dirk Pitt novels. It could be featured in more
> than one.
> http://www.amazon.com/Cyclops-Clive-Cussler/dp/customer-reviews/1417628812
> The stories are some kind of wild sometimes. Also involving geopolitical
> stuff in a way that makes Tom Clancy look tame.
> Heard about the 'United States of Canada'? :)
> First featured in 'Night Probe'.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Probe!
>
>>
>>>> Well, I wouldn't want to live on the moon. The light gravity would
>>>> mean it's hell to actually come back to Earth gravity after a while
>>>> as you start loosing bone mass. The danger of radiation poisoning
>>>> from solar bursts makes Apollo a daredevil stunt that most people
>>>> don't appreciate.
>>> Hmm... I'm very fond of creature comforts, so I would want a
>>> moonbase of the Alpha type. That looked pretty comfortable.
>> Yeah but when was the last time you actually WATCHED "Space:1999"? I
>> put it on my Netflix list this past summer having not seen it since I
>> was a teenager in the 1970s. It was so sad to see how bad it was with
>> an adult eye now. There are a few occasions where they refer to
>> engaging artificial gravity on the base and on the Eagle shuttles so
>> right there you have something beyond our real expectations of
>> foreseeable science.
>
> The last time was 1998. There were some reruns on the BBC. It did not hold
> up.
>
>> You be better off wishing to visit the rotating ring space station
>> from "2001". That is probably infinitely more doable as they won't
>> need to build the whole ring all at once but start with two opposing
>> struts and habitats and work from that. At least it will have and
>> approximation of gravity and a nice view. As long as you guzzle your
>> Dramamine!
>
> Heh, yeah.
> I also read a book by Gerard O'Neill
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_O%%27Neill
> It was pretty cool.
>
>>
>>>> And if you've ever sampled the freeze-dried badness of the food
>>>> you'd realize after the one month without say pizza that life on
>>>> the Moon ain't worth living.
>>>>
>>>> Now were we talking about plunking a Starfleet, '23rd' century style
>>>> habitat down with occasional excursions in spacesuits with
>>>> shatterproof visors for a lunar vacation and golf trip all I can
>>>> say is "What a sand trap!" Count me in!
>>> Okay.
>> I wonder how long it would take to ship up enough astroturf to make a
>> golf course? I think a course is usually like 110 acres isn't it?
>>
>> Talk about an exclusive rich asshole playground!
>>
>
> It costs some. I heard developers sometimes plan holiday resorts around
> them.
>
> Otoh, that Apollo astronaut had no need for a course, so all you need there
> is a small hole in the ground and a flag to aim at in its center.
>
>
>> I'm only kidding about playing golf. I think they should allow the
>> game to be more interesting by letting the rest of us shoot
>> paintballs at golf players from the woods and rough. I think it would
>> make the game much more interesting. Granted not as much as my other
>> idea about unleashing wolverines onto the course, but golfers are
>> such a wussy bunch anyhow.
>
> The wolverines might get hit by golfballs!

Not all golfers are Tiger Woods!
>>>> But if it's going with NASA who farms everything out to the
>>>> low-bidding Russians, well fergitabowtit!
>>> Hmmm....
>> Really any moon base is going to be like a really bad camping trip and
>> you aren't going to enjoy riding down on a column of thrust like the
>> Apollo guys did. Remember if that rocket faults or cuts out you're
>> toast.
>
> Not a good thing indeed.

On the upside that smug stewardess with her condescending safety spiel
is going to be entertainingly terrified.
>> Getting to and from space much less going anywhere is still pure
>> daredevil and wickedly expensive with chemical rockets.
>>
>> If one of you nerds would put down the Playstation controller and
>> invent the anti-grav generator already the rest of us could finally
>> take that magic carpet ride.
>
> If we could only figure out dark energy. It might be a clue to such a
> device.

I thought it was dark matter and zero-point energy?
>> BTW, anyone seen that commercial with the magic carpet factory? I
>> don't know what it advertises but it's funny as hell.

I guess no one watches tee-vee like me?
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