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Group: alt.startrek · Group Profile
Author: Wouter Valentijn
Date: Dec 3, 2006 16:05

Elvis Gump wrote:
> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>> Elvis Gump wrote:
>>> Wouter Valentijn wrote:
>>>> Al Smith wrote:
>>>>>>>>> They surely wasted weeks and weeks on shooting, editing and
>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>> the FX for this and the result is an embarrassing mess.
>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately we live in the future, so it might only be a
>>>>>>>>>> matter of time before someone cuts away all the worst parts
>>>>>>>>>> and digitally replaces them with better ones.
>>>>>>>> I am very disappointed with the future. I wanted to live on the
>>>>>>>> Moon. I'd like a refund.
>
>>>>>> Yeah, me too. And we already should have a manned Mars expedition
>>>>>> and manned flights towards the Jupiter and Saturn systems. Not
>>>>>> fair! Glad though that the moon is still in Earth's orbit. ;-)
>
>>>>> You can practically spit and hit the Moon, and we're not living
>>>>> there yet. It's downright silly.
>
>>>> I consider it an insult to the people that worked on the Apollo
>>>> project. BTW, I remember reading a Clive Cussler novel in which a
>>>> secret moonbase had been established shortly after the Apollo
>>>> project ended officially. If only, if only...
>
> What was the title of that one BTW? I think I'd like to read that!
> Only after seeing "Raise the Titanic!" I don't want to see the movie
> version.

It could be 'Cyclops'...
I haven't read all of the Dirk Pitt novels. It could be featured in more
than one.
http://www.amazon.com/Cyclops-Clive-Cussler/dp/customer-reviews/1417628812
The stories are some kind of wild sometimes. Also involving geopolitical
stuff in a way that makes Tom Clancy look tame.
Heard about the 'United States of Canada'? :)
First featured in 'Night Probe'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Probe!
>
>
>>> Well, I wouldn't want to live on the moon. The light gravity would
>>> mean it's hell to actually come back to Earth gravity after a while
>>> as you start loosing bone mass. The danger of radiation poisoning
>>> from solar bursts makes Apollo a daredevil stunt that most people
>>> don't appreciate.
>>
>> Hmm... I'm very fond of creature comforts, so I would want a
>> moonbase of the Alpha type. That looked pretty comfortable.
>
> Yeah but when was the last time you actually WATCHED "Space:1999"? I
> put it on my Netflix list this past summer having not seen it since I
> was a teenager in the 1970s. It was so sad to see how bad it was with
> an adult eye now. There are a few occasions where they refer to
> engaging artificial gravity on the base and on the Eagle shuttles so
> right there you have something beyond our real expectations of
> foreseeable science.

The last time was 1998. There were some reruns on the BBC. It did not hold
up.
>
> You be better off wishing to visit the rotating ring space station
> from "2001". That is probably infinitely more doable as they won't
> need to build the whole ring all at once but start with two opposing
> struts and habitats and work from that. At least it will have and
> approximation of gravity and a nice view. As long as you guzzle your
> Dramamine!

Heh, yeah.
I also read a book by Gerard O'Neill
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gerard_O%%27Neill
It was pretty cool.
>
>
>>> And if you've ever sampled the freeze-dried badness of the food
>>> you'd realize after the one month without say pizza that life on
>>> the Moon ain't worth living.
>>>
>>> Now were we talking about plunking a Starfleet, '23rd' century style
>>> habitat down with occasional excursions in spacesuits with
>>> shatterproof visors for a lunar vacation and golf trip all I can
>>> say is "What a sand trap!" Count me in!
>>
>> Okay.
>
> I wonder how long it would take to ship up enough astroturf to make a
> golf course? I think a course is usually like 110 acres isn't it?
>
> Talk about an exclusive rich asshole playground!
>

It costs some. I heard developers sometimes plan holiday resorts around
them.

Otoh, that Apollo astronaut had no need for a course, so all you need there
is a small hole in the ground and a flag to aim at in its center.
> I'm only kidding about playing golf. I think they should allow the
> game to be more interesting by letting the rest of us shoot
> paintballs at golf players from the woods and rough. I think it would
> make the game much more interesting. Granted not as much as my other
> idea about unleashing wolverines onto the course, but golfers are
> such a wussy bunch anyhow.

The wolverines might get hit by golfballs!
>
>
>>> But if it's going with NASA who farms everything out to the
>>> low-bidding Russians, well fergitabowtit!
>>
>> Hmmm....
>
> Really any moon base is going to be like a really bad camping trip and
> you aren't going to enjoy riding down on a column of thrust like the
> Apollo guys did. Remember if that rocket faults or cuts out you're
> toast.

Not a good thing indeed.
>
> Getting to and from space much less going anywhere is still pure
> daredevil and wickedly expensive with chemical rockets.
>
> If one of you nerds would put down the Playstation controller and
> invent the anti-grav generator already the rest of us could finally
> take that magic carpet ride.

If we could only figure out dark energy. It might be a clue to such a
device.
>
> BTW, anyone seen that commercial with the magic carpet factory? I
> don't know what it advertises but it's funny as hell.

--
Wouter Valentijn

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