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Author: GeneKGeneK Date: Sep 6, 2008 11:32
>
> New York City, 1972:
That one I didn't make, though I saw the coverage
on the local news. The next one was my first, and
was much better organized.
GeneK
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Author: GeneKGeneK Date: Sep 6, 2008 11:35
"Karl Johanson" wrote...
> I'm sure there are more complexities to the etymology I'm not aware of.
All of which are of importance only to fans who fancy
themselves to be or are bothered by being called one
or the other. To anyone outside the world of trek
fandom, both terms are synonymous with loony.
GeneK
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Author: Anim8rFSKAnim8rFSK Date: Sep 6, 2008 12:28
In article ,
"GeneK" genek_hates_spammers.com> wrote:
> BTW, the wikipedia article on trekkies says the first
> Star Trek con was 1976, which is incorrect. I definitely
> remember going to my first one while I was still in
> college and I graduated before 1976.
>
> GeneK
I was going to Comic-Con, which wasn't Trek specific, but was pretty
heavily Trek 'til Star Wars came out. Not sure if I've ever been to a
Trek specific con.
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Multiple root canals; hopped up on multiple pain drugs.
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Author: Anim8rFSKAnim8rFSK Date: Sep 6, 2008 12:28
In article ,
"GeneK" genek_hates_spammers.com> wrote:
> "Anim8rFSK" cox.net> wrote in message
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-BE2C81.10322706092008@news.west.cox.net...>> If you came across both terms together as I assume you did, that's
>> understandable...
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Author: GeneKGeneK Date: Sep 6, 2008 12:59
"Anim8rFSK" cox.net> wrote in message news:ANIM8Rfsk-> Because Trekkie is, and always was, a derogatory term. It was never
> self referential.
I suspect the first fans who started self-identifying as
trekkies did it to try to take ownership of the term.
GeneK
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Author: Karl JohansonKarl Johanson Date: Sep 6, 2008 13:26
"Anim8rFSK" cox.net> wrote> In article <0Jzwk.70134$hx.44505@pd7urf3no>,
> "Karl Johanson" wrote:
>> *Some* note that the term Trekkie is used as a pejorative by some, thus
>> prefer it not to be used. That sort of thing happens in language all the
>> time. An obvious example is the word "nigger", which simply means
>> "black",
>> but which has such a history of use as a pejorative that the term is
>> often
>> avoided as a term for black people by those whishing to avoid offence
>> (myself included, other than as a discussion of etymology). I note that
>> clearly "Trekkie" has far far less of a history of pejorative intent than
>> the 'n word', but the reaction to the term (right or wrong, overblown or
>> otherwise) by some Trek fans, is a similar phenomenon.
>
> I respectfully disagree. Trekkie began as an insult. "Ick, Trekkies"
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Author: Anim8rFSKAnim8rFSK Date: Sep 6, 2008 14:04
In article ,
"GeneK" genek_hates_spammers.com> wrote:
> "Anim8rFSK" cox.net> wrote in message news:ANIM8Rfsk->> Because Trekkie is, and always was, a derogatory term. It was never
>> self referential.
>
>
> I suspect the first fans who started self-identifying as
> trekkies did it to try to take ownership of the term.
>
> GeneK
I think TVGuide got it wrong, and a lot of people that didn't know any
better read it and believed it. Doesn't make it right though, any more
than if they'd read the Earth was flat.
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Author: Anim8rFSKAnim8rFSK Date: Sep 6, 2008 14:05
In article ,
"Karl Johanson" wrote:
> "Anim8rFSK" cox.net> wrote>> In article <0Jzwk.70134$hx.44505@pd7urf3no>,
>> "Karl Johanson" wrote:
>
>>> *Some* note that the term Trekkie is used as a pejorative...
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Author: George PeattyGeorge Peatty Date: Sep 6, 2008 14:14
On Sat, 6 Sep 2008 07:50:22 -0700, "GeneK" genek_hates_spammers.com>
wrote:
>My recollection is somewhat different. The term "trekkie"
>was originally science-fiction con speak, and was a
>derisive term for people who attended the cons because
>they liked Star Trek, but who...
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