In article <0tmdnRxjsIF9zMjVnZ2dnUVZ_hWdnZ2d@posted.isomediainc>,
"Frank R.A.J. Maloney"
blarg.net> wrote:
> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>> In article
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>> "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" blarg.net> wrote:
>> >>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>> In article
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>>>> "Frank R.A.J. Maloney" blarg.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Anim8rFSK wrote:
>>>>>> In article <3bKdnf7Kjo7RgMnVnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@posted.isomediainc>,
>>>>>> "Frank R.A.J. Maloney"
blarg.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Speciesism or xenophobia replaces racism in the Trek universe. Humans
>>>>>>> hated Romulans without ever seeing what one looked like.
>>>>>> In fairness to humans, they WERE always shooting at us!
>>>>>>
>>>>> But the humans demonized them, rather literally when they found out
>>>>> about the ears.
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>> Spock more than anyone else.
>>>> Only the one human, who was pissed off they'd killed most of his family.
>>>> If he demonized anybody, it was Spock. And I'd say Riley was at least
>>>> as mad at Kodos for murdering his family as Stiles was at the Romulans.
>>>
>>> True, Kodos was human, but eugenicists like him and Augments like Khan
>>> are consistently villains in the Trek universe -- and rightly so. The
>>> Eugenics Wars was one of humanity's many turning points.
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>> Actually, Bashir was an Augment regular on DS9 and one of the good guys.
>> He even got the girl in the end.
>>> But my impression, not having seen "Balance of Terror" for a long time,
>>> is that Stiles was only the most rabid anti-Romulanist among humans. No
>>> human had anything good or even neutral to say about their unseen enemy.
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> As I recall, Bashir had to hide his augmentations until fairly late in
> the series when he was exposed, genetic engineering of sentients being
> illegal in the Federation. Augments were still feared even though Bashir
> himself was a benign if sometimes off-putting character.
Agreed as to 'still feared' although pretty much once he came out nobody
cared, except of course O'Brian who quite rightly pointed out he'd been
cheating at darts. :)
My point was we've seen 2 sets of Augments; Khan et al and Bashir.
Khan's people were treated as villains, but they *were* villains, Khan
being at least as much of a eugenicist as Kodos. Bashir seemed mostly
afraid of a prejudice that didn't really seem to surface, and wasn't
ever treated as a villain.
>
> As for your other points, they are judgment calls as are mine. So I'm
> content to let that part go.
Ain't civil discourse splendid?
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Star Trek 09:
No Shat, No Show.
