Punch cards, tapes, floppy disks, and TOS (Re: Just for the record guys)
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Punch cards, tapes, floppy disks, and TOS (Re: Just for the record guys)         


Author: ToolPackinMama
Date: Aug 20, 2007 16:33

Quadibloc wrote:
> What are those square things lying around - SONY mini discs?

I feel constrained to point out that TOS was out before hard-shell 3.5"
floppy disks were invented. If you are alert, you can catch the captain
and crew people referring to records as "tapes" now and then. :)

Tapes were a new technology then. Cassette style tapes had not yet been
invented, if I recall correctly. Many radios were still using tubes,
and the portable battery-powered transistor radio was the hot must-have
item for hip teens.

The square "disks" of the TOS sneakernet don't actually seem to be
disks. They are never called disks. I don't think they envisioned
disks at that time. In TOS, they function like modern-day solid-state
flash-drives.

http://www.cs.virginia.edu/brochure/museum.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Computer_programming_in_the_punch_card_era

http://www.askdavetaylor.com/when_was_the_floppy_disk_invented.html
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Re: Punch cards, tapes, floppy disks, and TOS (Re: Just for the record guys)         


Author: Anim8rFSK
Date: Aug 20, 2007 17:54

In article <46ca2eab$0$18921$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
"GeneK" genek_hates_spammers.com> wrote:
>
> "ToolPackinMama" comcast.net> wrote...
>
>> The square "disks" of the TOS sneakernet don't actually seem to be
>> disks. They are never called disks. I don't think they envisioned
>> disks at that time. In TOS, they function like modern-day solid-state
>> flash-drives.
>
> They were referred to as "microtapes."

on air?

--
Why watch the Sci Fi Channel?
For every Flash Gordon, there is an Earthstorm!!
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Re: Punch cards, tapes, floppy disks, and TOS (Re: Just for the record guys)         


Author: Wiseguy
Date: Aug 20, 2007 17:08

Anim8rFSK cox.net> wrote in
news:ANIM8Rfsk-E7FCA2.17540620082007@news.phx.highwinds-media.com:
> In article <46ca2eab$0$18921$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
> "GeneK" genek_hates_spammers.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> "ToolPackinMama" comcast.net> wrote...
>>
>>> The square "disks" of the TOS sneakernet don't actually seem to be
>>> disks. They are never called disks. I don't think they envisioned
>>> disks at that time. In TOS, they function like modern-day
>>> solid-state flash-drives.
>>
>> They were referred to as "microtapes."
>
> on air?
>

Scotty calls them microtapes in "Friday's Child"
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Re: Punch cards, tapes, floppy disks, and TOS (Re: Just for the record guys)         


Author: Quadibloc
Date: Aug 20, 2007 20:34

ToolPackinMama wrote:
> The square "disks" of the TOS sneakernet don't actually seem to be
> disks. They are never called disks. I don't think they envisioned
> disks at that time. In TOS, they function like modern-day solid-state
> flash-drives.

But given that they hold video, their capacity is similar to a mini
disc, apparently.

I wasn't trying to criticize TOS, because, yes, it was made a long
time ago. Before floppy discs, and before microprocessors. But I was
pointing out that TOS does look strange *nowadays* because so much of
it has already become reality.

A lot of TOS episodes were based on classic science-fiction themes.
Any Star Trek series, though, has enough special effects in it that it
has to have *much* higher ratings than, say, the new Outer Limits
series, to survive. (I remember an episode there, aimed at the bad
effects of Internet addiction, where people's mental connections to
the science-fiction network in that show radiated out from this
strange, futuristic tall building... a *water tower*!!)
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Re: Punch cards, tapes, floppy disks, and TOS (Re: Just for the record guys)         


Author: Quadibloc
Date: Aug 20, 2007 20:36

Wiseguy wrote:
> Anim8rFSK cox.net> wrote in
> news:ANIM8Rfsk-E7FCA2.17540620082007@news.phx.highwinds-media.com:
>> In article <46ca2eab$0$18921$4c368faf@roadrunner.com>,
>> "GeneK" genek_hates_spammers.com> wrote:
>>> They were referred to as "microtapes."
>
>> on air?
>
> Scotty calls them microtapes in "Friday's Child"

Now that is something I missed.

John Savard
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Re: Punch cards, tapes, floppy disks, and TOS (Re: Just for the record guys)         


Author: GeneK
Date: Aug 20, 2007 22:08

"Quadibloc" wrote...
>> Scotty calls them microtapes in "Friday's Child"
> Now that is something I missed.

Also in "Doomsday Machine."

GeneK
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Re: Punch cards, tapes, floppy disks, and TOS (Re: Just for the record guys)         


Author: ToolPackinMama
Date: Aug 20, 2007 23:02

Quadibloc wrote:
> I wasn't trying to criticize TOS, because, yes, it was made a long
> time ago. Before floppy discs, and before microprocessors. But I was
> pointing out that TOS does look strange *nowadays* because so much of
> it has already become reality.

TOS ~inspired~ much of what has become reality. Did you know there is a
primitive food-printer, now? How long before it's a full-blown food
replicator?

http://www.boingboing.net/2007/05/10/homebrew_3d_candy_pr.html
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Re: Punch cards, tapes, floppy disks, and TOS (Re: Just for the record guys)         


Author: ToolPackinMama
Date: Aug 20, 2007 23:09

Wiseguy wrote:
> Scotty calls them microtapes in "Friday's Child"

Microtapes! ::gush:: isn't that quaint!? How delightful. :)
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Re: Punch cards, tapes, floppy disks, and TOS (Re: Just for the record guys)         


Author: ToolPackinMama
Date: Aug 20, 2007 23:09

GeneK wrote:
>
> "ToolPackinMama" comcast.net> wrote...
>
>> The square "disks" of the TOS sneakernet don't actually seem to be
>> disks. They are never called disks. I don't think they envisioned
>> disks at that time. In TOS, they function like modern-day solid-state
>> flash-drives.
>
> They were referred to as "microtapes." I recall reading
> that one of the developers of the 3.5" floppy disk (also
> sometimes called "microfloppies" said that the Star Trek
> prop was an inspiration for the shape and size of the
> housings. Considering that today we are seeing solid-
> state storage media that have no discs in them being
> called "drives," the only thing TOS got wrong was
> missing the disk drive as an intermediate step between tape and
> nonvolatile solid-state storage...
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Trek and sex (Re: Punch cards, tapes, floppy disks, and TOS)         


Author: ToolPackinMama
Date: Aug 20, 2007 23:15

Quadibloc wrote:
> Enterprise, for example, was a bit...obtrusive in its handling of an
> increased level of sexual content. I didn't find the content itself
> objectionable _per se_, but I felt it would have a negative effect on
> introducing a new generation of fans to Star Trek

Now hold on a second. TOS was a very sexy show! VERY sexy. And there
were many times when the sexy parts were obviously purely gratuitous.

The original advertisers for TOS sold cigarettes and automobiles. You
don't honestly think Star Trek was intended to be a kid's show? The
only reason it wasn't MORE hard-core is because of the stringent TV
standards of the day.
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