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Re: [NEWS} J.J. Abrams Talks Star Trek         

Group: alt.startrek · Group Profile
Author: kev
Date: Jul 31, 2008 10:21

On 31 Jul 2008, the world was enlightened by Wickeddoll®'s opinion
about...
> "80_Knight"...
>> "Wickeddoll®"
>>>> "Anybody"
>>>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I mean absolutely no disrespect towards you Brenda.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> IMHO, there
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> difference between being skeptical (as you said you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are, in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> post), and actually insulting people just because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> movie.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I do wish people would learn to read. :-\
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I never ever said that. I said people were stupid for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not realising
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that making changes makes a different product ... go
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and see
>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rubbish you want, I can't stop you even if I wanted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> And your comments about "real fans"?
>>>>>>>>>>>> You may not have thought that demeaning, but it
>>>>>>>>>>>> obviously was taken
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> way.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> A I said, the very definition of a "fan" is someone who
>>>>>>>>>>> likes something, and obviously they like it BECAUSE of
>>>>>>>>>>> the way it is.
>>>>>>>>>>> Therefore a "true fan" doesn't want to see the thing they
>>>>>>>>>>> like changed.
>>>>>>>>>>> If you don't mind it being changed, then you are not
>>>>>>>>>>> really a "fan"
>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>> that product ... you might instead be a fan of the vague
>>>>>>>>>>> idea (in
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>> case "space adventure stories"), but not the actual
>>>>>>>>>>> product, and
>>>>>>>>>>> therefore Hollyweird's silly changes don't really worry
>>>>>>>>>>> you, as long
>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>> it stays a "space adventure story".
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> END OF STORY.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm no longer wasting my time with this silliness,
>>>>>>>>>>> constantly going
>>>>>>>>>>> around and aropund the same circle simply becuase people
>>>>>>>>>>> can't read
>>>>>>>>>>> what I've actually said, but instead make up things they
>>>>>>>>>>> THINK I
>>>>>>>>>>> said
>>>>>>>>>>> to suit themselves. :-(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Actually, with Google being nice enough to keep post's
>>>>>>>>>> around for
>>>>>>>>>> quite a
>>>>>>>>>> while, no one needs to 'make up' things you have said. You
>>>>>>>>>> have been
>>>>>>>>>> rude
>>>>>>>>>> and demeaning to people who don't agree with you, just like
>>>>>>>>>> you have
>>>>>>>>>> been
>>>>>>>>>> since I read your first post, years ago. If someone does
>>>>>>>>>> not agree
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> you, they are "uniformed", "stupid", or they just "bow to
>>>>>>>>>> Hollyweird"
>>>>>>>>>> (what
>>>>>>>>>> is that anyhow?). You will engage in a debate, but when
>>>>>>>>>> people start
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> question your view, you pull what you just did. You end
>>>>>>>>>> the "silliness",
>>>>>>>>>> and usually killfile everyone involved.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> As for you believing that people can't read what you have
>>>>>>>>>> said, and
>>>>>>>>>> just
>>>>>>>>>> make up things they think you've said, take this tidbit of
>>>>>>>>>> yours as an
>>>>>>>>>> example:
>>>>>>>>>> "That's because most people on this planet are incredibly
>>>>>>>>>> thick. It's
>>>>>>>>>> extremely easy to understand that a franchise is more than
>>>>>>>>>> just the
>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> vague idea ... but thanks to that the average person's
>>>>>>>>>> stupidty and
>>>>>>>>>> gullibility we will continue to get these silly
>>>>>>>>>> in-name-only "reboots"
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> are barely recognisable. :-("
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Now, please tell me how that is not insulting anyone?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet again: I DO WISH PEOPLE COULD READ!!!!! :-\
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Uhh, my comprehension is usually quite fine,
>>>>>>>> thanks (note
>>>>>>>> that I said "usually"). You said most people on this planet
>>>>>>>> are "incredibly
>>>>>>>> thick", and that the average person is stupid and gullible.
>>>>>>>> What am I
>>>>>>>> missing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Whatever you say. :-\
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why can't you simply explain what you mean? You are saying I am
>>>>>> mis-reading
>>>>>> what you wrote. Just explain what you meant, and everyone will
>>>>>> be happy.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't be bothered wasting any more time on this. If people can't
>>>>> actually read it's not my problem and I refuse to go around and
>>>>> around the same circle again and again. Believe whatever you want.
>>>>> GAME OVER.
>>>>
>>>> I just don't understand what you mean about people not being able
>>>> to read what you are saying. I said you insulted people, you
>>>> claimed you didn't. I provided proof that you did (see above), and
>>>> you still can't explain it, or even admit to it. The only reason
>>>> it's "game over" is because (once again) you have been caught
>>>> lying, and insulting people, and you can't admit to either, and you
>>>> certainly won't apologize. I think you seriously need to chill
>>>> out. If Usenet upsets you so much, take a breather from it. Or,
>>>> try going to groups that you don't get so upset in. I just don't
>>>> understand why you get so flustered when people start to question
>>>> you. Life is short, don't waste all of your energy yelling and
>>>> screaming on Usenet.
>>>>
>>> I pretty much already said that, but you don't really think this
>>> will be accepted, do you?
>>
>> Not a chance.
>
> Nope, none.
>>
>>> Some people thrive on conflict, which is quite different from
>>> enjoying healthy debate. They drop inflammatory phrases and names;
>>> they deny using them, ignore them, or continue with that behavior.
>>> It's a pattern all over the internet, but especially bad on Usenet.
>>> This is actually one of the symptoms of depression, since the person
>>> needs to try to control others, since they feel no control in their
>>> own lives. I don't know many of you folks outside of your posts
>>> here, but this certainly seems a glaring example of someone with
>>> issues serious enough to cause *them* pain, regarding something as
>>> minor as an effing TV show/movie.
>>
>> I can definitely agree with that. It almost seems that any attempt
>> to change a show he/she likes is actually threatening his life.
>>
>>> Even *without* true depression, I feel sorry for folks who have this
>>> attitude, because there are just too many other things in life that
>>> should *really* get one upset. I think of the internet in general
>>> as just a diversion. When things get ugly, I usually say my piece,
>>> then leave the thread. I often agree to disagree with some folks,
>>> but I try to never get personal, though I have responded in kind to
>>> insults directed at me as an individual. However, I try to avoid
>>> name-calling and/or pigeonholing, no matter the situation.
>>>
>>> Natalie
>>
>> And all of that is why you are so respected throughout Usenet. :)
>>
> Aw, shucks. :-)
>
> You're always courteous as well - and damned funny sometimes!
>
> OK, I'll stop before someone tosses us a room key...
>
> I get no respect from that Evil Cabal, though. They're incorrigible -
> which is why I love them.
>
> Natalie
>
>
>

There is no Cabal.

kev

--
Usenet really is all about standing around and hitting the
ground with clubs, on a spot where many years earlier a dead
horse lay. - Chris Barnes, 2007.

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