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Author: JaxtrawJaxtraw Date: Dec 19, 2006 02:26
ToolPackinMama wrote:
> Snake wrote:
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>> OMG!
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>> CURVES!
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>> a FIGURE!!
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>> How DARE they!!!
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> LOL
I'd just like to add here that I think it's not really a question of curves
vs. not curves, sort of thing. For me, I think the important thing is that
there is a wide natural variation in body types and...
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Author: George PeattyGeorge Peatty Date: Dec 19, 2006 09:14
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:26:20 -0000, "Jaxtraw"
knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote:
>Whaterver. I really don't think that the current "ideal" really reflects
>what ordinary men want women to be like. As a male, I'm not qualified to
>comment on what women want women to be like ;) As I said above, I think it's
>a manifestation of puritanical ideals promoted by an influential societal
>caste. If we can get society back to a more post-war, confident, "hedonist"
>mindset, the obsession with extreme skinniness in the public arena will
>probably pass.
I've spent too much time in Usenet to agree. I've read post after post -
though googling failed to turn up any - of men ridiculing women for being by
their standards *fat*. Some women respond to this for whatever reason. I've
read, too, of celebrities being told by producers to watch their weight or
lose weight. Melody Patterson is one I recall specifically. This isn't
just a woman's health issue; it is a warped *male* standard of beauty that
is at least partly responsible for this obsession. Puritanism has nothing
to do with it, nor does hedonism.
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Author: Steven L.Steven L. Date: Dec 19, 2006 19:46
George Peatty wrote:
> I've
> read, too, of celebrities being told by producers to watch their weight or
> lose weight. Melody Patterson is one I recall specifically.
> This isn't
> just a woman's health issue; it is a warped *male* standard of beauty that
> is at least partly responsible for this obsession.
No, I don't think it came from males generally.
From my recollections, the emphasis on super-thinness originated from
certain parts of the fashion industry and fashion magazines like Vogue.
And the fashion models on the runways got thinner and thinner, setting
the pace for the rest of the world's women.
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Author: Elvis GumpElvis Gump Date: Dec 20, 2006 07:49
George Peatty wrote:
> In article newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Steven L.
> says...
>
> [snip]
> >>> This isn't just a woman's health issue; it is a warped *male* standard of >>
>>> beauty that is at least partly responsible for this obsession.
>
>> No, I don't think it came from males generally.
>
>> From my recollections, the emphasis on super-thinness originated from
>> certain parts of the fashion industry and fashion magazines like Vogue.
>> And the fashion models on the runways got thinner and thinner, setting
>> the pace for the rest of the world's women.
>
>> As I recall, this was a conscious decision on the part of the clothing
>> designers: The original rationale was that a shapely, curvy, busty
>> fashion model would draw too much public attention to her body rather
>> than to the clothing she was modeling. IOW, they wanted a model's body ...
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Author: George PeattyGeorge Peatty Date: Dec 20, 2006 05:11
In article newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Steven L.
says...
[snip]
>>This isn't just a woman's health issue; it is a warped *male* standard of >>
>>beauty that is at least partly responsible for this obsession.
>No, I don't think it came from males generally.
> From my recollections, the emphasis on super-thinness originated from
>certain parts of the fashion industry and fashion magazines like Vogue.
>And the fashion models on the runways got thinner and thinner, setting
>the pace for the rest of the world's women.
>As I recall, this was a conscious decision on the part of the clothing
>designers: The original rationale was that a shapely, curvy, busty
>fashion model would draw too much public attention to her body rather
>than to the clothing she was modeling. IOW, they wanted a model's body
>that would function solely as an anonymous "walking coat hanger," on
>which the clothing would be displayed to potential customers without
>drawing attention to the body underneath. That way, you notice and
>admire the clothing, not the model wearing it.
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Author: George PeattyGeorge Peatty Date: Dec 20, 2006 15:47
In article news.west.cox.net>, Anim8rFSK
says...
[snip]
>IIRC, Wo Fat always dressed pretty spiffily.
Book 'im, Dano .. McGarrett never did get to say that to Wo Fat, did he?
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Author: Steven L.Steven L. Date: Dec 20, 2006 17:17
George Peatty wrote:
> In article newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>, Steven L.
> says...
>
> [snip]
> >>> This isn't just a woman's health issue; it is a warped *male* standard of >>
>>> beauty that is at least partly responsible for this obsession.
>
>> No, I don't think it came from males generally.
>
>> From my recollections, the emphasis on super-thinness originated from
>> certain parts of the fashion industry and fashion magazines like Vogue.
>> And the fashion models on the runways got thinner and thinner, setting
>> the pace for the rest of the world's women.
>
>> As I recall, this was a conscious decision on the part of the clothing
>> designers: The original rationale was that a shapely, curvy, busty
>> fashion model would draw too much public attention to her body rather
>> than to the clothing she was modeling. IOW, they wanted a model's body ...
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Author: MarcovaldoMarcovaldo Date: Dec 20, 2006 19:15
"George Peatty" copper.net> wrote in message
news:emci3d07eo@drn.newsguy.com...> In article news.west.cox.net>, Anim8rFSK
> says...
>
> [snip]
>>>IIRC, Wo Fat always dressed pretty spiffily.
>
>
> Book 'im, Dano .. McGarrett never did get to say that to Wo Fat, did he?
>
"Book 'im, Fatso"?
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Author: MarcovaldoMarcovaldo Date: Dec 20, 2006 19:15
"George Peatty" copper.net> wrote in message
news:emci3d07eo@drn.newsguy.com...> In article news.west.cox.net>, Anim8rFSK
> says...
>
> [snip]
>>>IIRC, Wo Fat always dressed pretty spiffily.
>
>
> Book 'im, Dano .. McGarrett never did get to say that to Wo Fat, did he?
>
"Book 'im, Fatso"?
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