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Date: Feb 24, 2008 10:15
Journey's End! Wow, this one had it all: that pinnacle of PC thought, the
deification of native americans, shoved down our throats, and loads and
loads of overwrought acting by Will Wheaton. This episode was one long
string of cringe-worthy scenes, truly the epitome of cringe-worthiness!
Congrats to this episode!
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Date: Feb 24, 2008 10:37
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:15:29 -0800, a wrote:
> Journey's End! Wow, this one had it all: that pinnacle of PC thought, the
> deification of native americans, shoved down our throats, and loads and
> loads of overwrought acting by Will Wheaton. This episode was one long
> string of cringe-worthy scenes, truly the epitome of cringe-worthiness!
> Congrats to this episode!
I think The Outcast is even worse.
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Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz
Promote someone else.
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Author: JaxtrawJaxtraw Date: Feb 24, 2008 10:54
Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz wrote:
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:15:29 -0800, a wrote:
>
>> Journey's End! Wow, this one had it all: that pinnacle of PC
>> thought, the deification of native americans, shoved down our
>> throats, and loads and loads of overwrought acting by Will Wheaton.
>> This episode was one long string of cringe-worthy scenes, truly the
>> epitome of cringe-worthiness! Congrats to this episode!
>
> I think The Outcast is even worse.
"The Outrageous Okona", anyone?
Ian
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Author: Robo-manRobo-man Date: Feb 24, 2008 13:11
> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:15:29 -0800, a wrote:
>
>> Journey's End! Wow, this one had it all: that pinnacle of PC thought,
>> the
>> deification of native americans, shoved down our throats, and loads and
>> loads of overwrought acting by Will Wheaton. This episode was one long
>> string of cringe-worthy scenes, truly the epitome of cringe-worthiness!
>> Congrats to this episode!
>
> I think The Outcast is even worse.
Yeah. 'The Outcast' would get my vote (The Planet of Lesbiens). I could not
even believe what I was watching.
And I thought that 'The Hunted' (The Planet of Veitnam Veterans) had some
cringe moments too.
I don't know. Those two episodes were Wesley gets seperated from his mum
then we get the happy reunion at the end(Justice and When the Bough Breaks)
makes me want to reach for an airsick bag every time.
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Author: JaxtrawJaxtraw Date: Feb 24, 2008 13:41
Robo-man wrote:
> "Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz" < starfist.at.gmail.dot.com> wrote in
> message news:1brw28r0xo852.dlg@starfist.thorsfinni... >> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:15:29 -0800, a wrote:
>>
>>> Journey's End! Wow, this one had it all: that pinnacle of PC
>>> thought, the
>>> deification of native americans, shoved down our throats, and loads
>>> and loads of overwrought acting by Will Wheaton. This episode was
>>> one long string of cringe-worthy scenes, truly the epitome of
>>> cringe-worthiness! Congrats to this episode!
>>
>> I think The Outcast is even worse.
>
> Yeah. 'The Outcast' would get my vote (The Planet of Lesbiens). I
> could not even believe what I was watching.
> And I thought that 'The Hunted' (The Planet of Veitnam Veterans) had
> some cringe moments too.
>
> I don't know. Those two episodes were Wesley gets seperated from his ...
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Author: Robo-manRobo-man Date: Feb 24, 2008 13:59
>>
>> And the reason Roddenberry wrote Wesley into the series was for
>> children to have an interest in the show. I guess spaceships warping
>> around the galaxy, battling Klingons and Romulans, meeting dozens of
>> new alien species just could not hold a childs attention.
>
> There seems to be this widespread belief among creators of shows (and
> movies, and literature and so on) that anyone who is part of an identified
> group is only interested in that identified group, and so to appeal to
> that
> group the show (etc) must be about, or contain that group. A child must be
> included to appeal to children, a black person to appeal to black people,
> a,
> uh, woman to appeal to women, a dog to appeal to um dogs, and so on. They
> don't seem to think it's possible that children may enjoy shows about
> adults, or men may enjoy watching er women. Makes no sense to me.
>
> When I was a youngster, I enjoyed Trek without there being kids in it, and
> I
> enjoyed books without kids in them; indeed like I think like many people I ...
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Date: Feb 24, 2008 14:47
"Jaxtraw" knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
news:47c1e4a1$0$2445$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...
> There seems to be this widespread belief among creators of shows (and
> movies, and literature and so on) that anyone who is part of an identified
> group is only interested in that identified group, and so to appeal to
> that
> group the show (etc) must be about, or contain that group.
On a related note, Chekov in TOS was cast to look as much like a member of
the Beatles or the Monkeys as possible, to cash in on that social trend.
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Author: Steven L.Steven L. Date: Feb 24, 2008 15:33
Jaxtraw wrote:
> There seems to be this widespread belief among creators of shows (and
> movies, and literature and so on) that anyone who is part of an identified
> group is only interested in that identified group, and so to appeal to that
> group the show (etc) must be about, or contain that group. A child must be
> included to appeal to children, a black person to appeal to black people, a,
> uh, woman to appeal to women, a dog to appeal to um dogs, and so on. They
> don't seem to think it's possible that children may enjoy shows about
> adults, or men may enjoy watching er women. Makes no sense to me.
Well, there is something to be said for it, given the Nielsen ratings data.
Shows with predominantly black casts (like "Moesha") had almost entirely
black viewership. It was a Top 20 hit among black viewers, and near the
bottom of the ratings among white viewers.
"Kid Nation" won its time slot among young viewers but among no one
else. You couldn't get childless adults to watch that show. Believe
me, I tried. :-)
And ABC's current lineup of "chick" shows really do attract more female
viewers than male viewers. Most male viewers don't watch "Men in Trees"
or "Samantha Who?"
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Date: Feb 24, 2008 17:44
"Robo-man" cox.net> wrote in message
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> "Lance Corporal "Hammer" Schultz" < starfist.at.gmail.dot.com> wrote in
> message news:1brw28r0xo852.dlg@starfist.thorsfinni... >> On Sun, 24 Feb 2008 10:15:29 -0800, a wrote:
>>
>>> Journey's End! Wow, this one had it all: that pinnacle of PC thought,
>>> the
>>> deification of native americans, shoved down our throats, and loads and
>>> loads of overwrought acting by Will Wheaton. This episode was one long
>>> string of cringe-worthy scenes, truly the epitome of cringe-worthiness!
>>> Congrats to this episode!
>>
>> I think The Outcast is even worse.
>
> Yeah. 'The Outcast' would get my vote (The Planet of Lesbiens). I could
> not even believe what I was watching.
> And I thought that 'The Hunted' (The Planet of Veitnam Veterans) had some
> cringe moments too. ...
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Date: Feb 24, 2008 17:51
"Jaxtraw" knickersjaxtrawstudios.com> wrote in message
news:47c1bd5b$0$2437$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk...> "The Outrageous Okona", anyone?
At least Okona himself was a funny character - the actor didn't do a bad job
with the material, consider.
How about "The Royale"? Did that episode serve any purpose whatsoever?
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