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Author: Steven L.Steven L. Date: Apr 20, 2008 22:47
New `Star Trek' faces; old characters
By Rob Lowman, Entertainment Editor
Article Last Updated: 04/18/2008 10:06:10 PM PDT
Director J.J. Abrams promised Wednesday that "the movie we're making
won't feel like any other `Star Trek' you've ever seen."
Everyone involved is being closed-mouthed about plot points for the film
due out May 8, 2009, but Abrams, known for slam-bang action in his TV
series "Alias" and in "Mission: Impossible III," adds, "There hadn't
been this kind of action in a `Star Trek' movie before."
The new "Star Trek" is essentially a reboot of the original 1960 TV
series. It stars Chris Pine as Captain Kirk and Zachary Quinto as Mr.
Spock. Leonard Nimoy, who originated the role of Spock, will be seen as
well in the movie as an older Spock. The film, which is still in
production, had originally been targeted for Christmas, but Paramount
moved it when they thought they could make more money in the summer.
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Author: George PeattyGeorge Peatty Date: Apr 21, 2008 05:41
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 01:47:24 -0400, "Steven L." earthlink.net>
wrote:
>Interesting, Abrams wasn't an avid "ST" fan. "`The Twilight Zone' was my
>show. I appreciated `Star Trek' and I enjoyed it, but I was in no way -
>you know - that kid! I've always been much more of a `Star Wars' guy
>than a `Star Trek' guy."
Ewww! A Warsie in charge of a Trek movie? This can't be good .. I wonder
who he cast as Jar-Jar Binks?
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Author: GeneKGeneK Date: Apr 21, 2008 08:36
"Steven L." earthlink.net> wrote...> "There hadn't been this kind of action in a `Star Trek' movie before."
If abrams is suggesting that he's going to do the same
thing to Star Trek that he did to MI, i.e., turn a series
whose plots involved complex intrigue into a slam-
bang action pic with lots of big explosions, then this
is *really* not encouraging.
GeneK
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Author: Steven L.Steven L. Date: Apr 21, 2008 09:54
GeneK wrote:
> "Steven L." earthlink.net> wrote...>> "There hadn't been this kind of action in a `Star Trek' movie before."
>
> If abrams is suggesting that he's going to do the same
> thing to Star Trek that he did to MI, i.e., turn a series
> whose plots involved complex intrigue into a slam-
> bang action pic with lots of big explosions, then this
> is *really* not encouraging.
Why? TOS got sold to NBC as action-adventure. Any limitations on
action were not due to writing but due to cost. Roddenberry didn't have
the budget to show entire civilizations or wars between whole
civilizations, so the scripts were written to have a few token alien
characters stand there and explain what was going on (e.g., "Let That Be
Your Last Battlefield").
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Author: Anim8rFSKAnim8rFSK Date: Apr 21, 2008 10:04
In article newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net>,
"GeneK" genek_hates_spammers.com> wrote:
> "Steven L." earthlink.net> wrote...>> "There hadn't been this kind of action in a `Star Trek' movie before."
>
> If abrams is suggesting that he's going to do the same
> thing to Star Trek that he did to MI, i.e., turn a series
> whose plots involved complex intrigue into a slam-
> bang action pic with lots of big explosions, then this
> is *really* not encouraging.
>
> GeneK
Nope. MI3 was crap.
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Author: GeneKGeneK Date: Apr 21, 2008 10:38
"Steven L." earthlink.net> wrote...> Why? TOS got sold to NBC as action-adventure.
And if it had remained that, it would have been
forgotten long ago. Does anyone really think
the enduring popularity of TOS is based on its
action scenes?
GeneK
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Author: KweegKweeg Date: Apr 21, 2008 10:56
"Steven L." earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:B4ydnbapAJcsW5HVnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@earthlink.com...> GeneK wrote:
>> "Steven L." earthlink.net> wrote...>>> "There hadn't been this kind of action in a `Star Trek' movie before."
>>
>> If abrams is suggesting that he's going to do the same
>> thing to Star Trek that he did to MI, i.e., turn a series
>> whose plots involved complex intrigue into a slam-
>> bang action pic with lots of big explosions, then this
>> is *really* not encouraging.
>
> Why? TOS got sold to NBC as action-adventure. Any limitations on action
> were not due to writing but due to cost. Roddenberry didn't have the
> budget to show entire civilizations or wars between whole civilizations,
> so the scripts were written to have a few token alien characters...
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Author: George PeattyGeorge Peatty Date: Apr 21, 2008 10:56
On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:38:54 -0700, "GeneK" genek_hates_spammers.com>
wrote:
>And if it had remained that, it would have been
>forgotten long ago. Does anyone really think
>the enduring popularity of TOS is based on its
>action scenes?
Yes, actually. I never tire of watching "Balance of Terror" I can't say
that about most of the other episodes. I also like many of the episodes
that hint at (because they didn't have the money to show) action, like
Errand of Mercy, Taste of Armageddon, Mirror, Mirror, et. al. My favorite
movie is Nemesis, the last third of which is a virtual remake of Balance of
Terror ..
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Author: GeneKGeneK Date: Apr 21, 2008 12:13
"Kweeg" wrote...
> Indeed. All these people that moan on about "Roddenberry wouldn't have
> done that." Well Roddenberry did have the vision, but as far as a
> writer or producer goes he was mediocre at best. GR didn't give a damn
> about continuity (or canon) in his own ST universe, if it would make
> money (or he thought it was a good idea) he'd do it. One just has to
> look at TMP and the first season of TNG to see that.
Which comes back to my point. I don't want to see a
new Star Trek hew close to what Roddenberry proposed
to NBC in the 60's, what NBC thought they were getting
when they green-lighted the series in the 60's *or* what
Roddenberry delivered in the 80's and beyond when he
finally had the freedom to do pretty much what he wanted.
TOS as we know it was none of these things.
GeneK
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Author: KweegKweeg Date: Apr 21, 2008 13:11
>
> "Kweeg" wrote...
>> Indeed. All these people that moan on about "Roddenberry wouldn't have
>> done that." Well Roddenberry did have the vision, but as far as a writer
>> or producer goes he was mediocre at best. GR didn't give a damn about
>> continuity (or canon) in his own ST universe, if it would make money (or
>> he thought it was a good idea) he'd do it. One just has to look at TMP
>> and the first season of TNG to see that.
>
> Which comes back to my point. I don't want to see a
> new Star Trek hew close to what Roddenberry proposed
> to NBC in the 60's,
I do. "Wagon Train to the stars," (with some Hornblower thrown in) with ray
guns instead of six shooters (etc etc).... an adventure show where the good
guys on the frontier have to do what they do while sometimes not obeying the
"city law" they still do what's right. The whole inspiring, this is what
"decent" people can do stuff.
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