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Re: Trade Oden for Beasley         


Author: umo
Date: Mar 2, 2008 04:07

People get so hung up on basketball labels like power forward and
center. A 7ft center and a 6-10 power forward is a distinction without
a significant difference. The determining factor is not the 2" height
differential; it's whether or not they can play on the front line. The
two most dominating low post defenders in NBA history were Bill
Russell (6-9) and Dennis Rodman (6-8). Ben Wallace won Defensive
Player of the Year 4 times. Big Ben is no 7 footer. There ain't no
reason why a 6-10 Michael Beasley cannot be a dominant NBA defender in
the paint.
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Re: Trade Oden for Beasley         


Author: Terraholm
Date: Mar 2, 2008 09:24

umo wrote:
> People get so hung up on basketball labels like power forward and
> center. A 7ft center and a 6-10 power forward is a distinction without
> a significant difference. The determining factor is not the 2" height
> differential; it's whether or not they can play on the front line. The
> two most dominating low post defenders in NBA history were Bill
> Russell (6-9) and Dennis Rodman (6-8). Ben Wallace won Defensive
> Player of the Year 4 times. Big Ben is no 7 footer. There ain't no
> reason why a 6-10 Michael Beasley cannot be a dominant NBA defender in
> the paint.

Yes there is...a commitment to defense and an insticnt for it that might be
developed, more likely not.
Oden's defense is a known and rare...
He is 6-9 according to most of the draft sites and allready talk about if he
would be a 3 in the nba.

Draft express
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Michael-Beasley-605/
Comparisons: Best Case: More Athletic Zach Randolph Worst Case: Al
Harrington
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Re: Trade Oden for Beasley         


Author: Swillabrew
Date: Mar 2, 2008 11:26

"umo" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:09d49c25-e377-4dfd-be22-97470c0364b3@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> People get so hung up on basketball labels like power forward and
> center. A 7ft center and a 6-10 power forward is a distinction without
> a significant difference. The determining factor is not the 2" height
> differential; it's whether or not they can play on the front line. The
> two most dominating low post defenders in NBA history were Bill
> Russell (6-9) and Dennis Rodman (6-8).

Wilt says hi.
> Ben Wallace won Defensive
> Player of the Year 4 times. Big Ben is no 7 footer. There ain't no
> reason why a 6-10 Michael Beasley cannot be a dominant NBA defender in
> the paint.

Laurel beat me to the reasons, but the biggest one is Beasley doesn't want
to play D, he wants to be an offensive highlight reel.

Go Blazers !
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Re: Trade Oden for Beasley         


Author: umo
Date: Mar 2, 2008 11:35

The character issue is by far the strongest argument against trading
Oden for Beasley, A young man's character is forged in the crucible of
his formative years between age 10 and 15. It's too late to
fundamentally change a despicable 18 year old.
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Re: Trade Oden for Beasley         


Author: Terraholm
Date: Mar 2, 2008 11:51

umo wrote:
> The character issue is by far the strongest argument against trading
> Oden for Beasley,

Not to me...it is the weakness on defense and selfishness having him labled
a more athletic Z-bo.
>A young man's character is forged in the crucible of
> his formative years between age 10 and 15. It's too late to
> fundamentally change a despicable 18 year old.

Well I found nothing on 'despicable' more to prangster but also perhaps a
poor attitude for the team concept in Portland.

--
Laurel T
"I told him,'Son, what is it with you. Is it ignorance or apathy?'
He said, 'Coach, I don't know and I don't care."
Frank Layden
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Re: Trade Oden for Beasley         


Author: C The Shocker
Date: Mar 2, 2008 14:13

"umo" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:5056141d-3755-4e7b-8e1e-ec54503830f8@u10g2000prn.googlegroups.com...
> Show me somebody who thinks Oden will be a better NBA player than
> Michael Beasley; and I will show you somebody who knows nothing about
> basketball.

Your opinion is duly noted and laughed at.

--
C The Shocker
Uh.... yeah.
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Re: Trade Oden for Beasley         


Author: Charles Beauchamp
Date: Mar 10, 2008 01:38

"umo" gmail.com> wrote in message
news:09d49c25-e377-4dfd-be22-97470c0364b3@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> People get so hung up on basketball labels like power forward and
> center. A 7ft center and a 6-10 power forward is a distinction without
> a significant difference. The determining factor is not the 2" height
> differential; it's whether or not they can play on the front line. The
> two most dominating low post defenders in NBA history were Bill
> Russell (6-9) and Dennis Rodman (6-8). Ben Wallace won Defensive
> Player of the Year 4 times. Big Ben is no 7 footer. There ain't no
> reason why a 6-10 Michael Beasley cannot be a dominant NBA defender in
> the paint.

Wow...now who is the one who doesn't know anything about basketball?

--
v/r Beau

God Bless Hokienation!!!
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sonics was Re: Trade Oden for Beasley         


Author: Terraholm
Date: Mar 10, 2008 12:28

Charles Beauchamp wrote:
> "umo" gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:09d49c25-e377-4dfd-be22-97470c0364b3@s19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>> People get so hung up on basketball labels like power forward and
>> center. A 7ft center and a 6-10 power forward is a distinction
>> without a significant difference. The determining factor is not the
>> 2" height differential; it's whether or not they can play on the
>> front line. The two most dominating low post defenders in NBA
>> history were Bill Russell (6-9) and Dennis Rodman (6-8). Ben Wallace
>> won Defensive Player of the Year 4 times. Big Ben is no 7 footer.
>> There ain't no reason why a 6-10 Michael Beasley cannot be a
>> dominant NBA defender in the paint.
>
>
> Wow...now who is the one who doesn't know anything about basketball...
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Re: sonics was Re: Trade Oden for Beasley         


Author: Blazer Fan Dan
Date: Mar 10, 2008 18:08

On Mar 10, 12:28 pm, "Terraholm" hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi ya beau.
> If the city wins it's law suit to make the sonics stay though 2010, do you
> think the local group with bucks to burn will be able to talk the Okie
> Bennett into selling them the team? He would be facing big losses for two
> more years and the hornets might be available.... faint hope?
>
> Steve Pyeatt = Coz?
>
> --
> Laurel T

I didn't think about that, thats an interesting angle. I don't really
like the idea of any teams moving, but New Orleans has been a mistake
from the get go...same with Memphis.

Move the Hornets to OK (or share them maybe...25 games in OK, 17 in
NO?) and move the Grizz to Vegas or KC.
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Re: sonics was Re: Trade Oden for Beasley         


Author: Terraholm
Date: Mar 10, 2008 18:40

Blazer Fan Dan wrote:
> On Mar 10, 12:28 pm, "Terraholm" hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi ya beau.
>> If the city wins it's law suit to make the sonics stay though 2010,
>> do you think the local group with bucks to burn will be able to talk
>> the Okie Bennett into selling them the team? He would be facing big
>> losses for two more years and the hornets might be available....
>> faint hope?
>>
>> Steve Pyeatt = Coz?
>>
>> --
>> Laurel T
>
> I didn't think about that, thats an interesting angle. I don't really
> like the idea of any teams moving, but New Orleans has been a mistake
> from the get go...same with Memphis.
>
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