On Dec 7, 12:58 pm, Brian Matthews
ddd.com> wrote:> On Fri, 07 Dec 2007 10:51:51 -0500, SkippyPB
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nospam.neo.rr.com> wrote:>>On Thu, 6 Dec 2007 11:59:17 -0500, pH_4...@
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>>>Brian wrote:
>>>>Find a nice spot on the END
>>>>of the bench for Murray and plant
>>>>him there. I don't like this guy,
>>>>never did and never will. So,
>>>>you could say I can't be objective.
>>>>But I would rather develop Stuckey. >Murray's game is already set, we
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>>>>still teach the kid. JMO
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>>>But what makes this confusing for me is that Flip has been playing well
>>>whenever he's in there. I like when he plays because he's able to break
>>>down the defense with his dribbling. However his dribbling has no middle
>>>ground; it's either all good or VERY bad. But when he's hot he's
>>>enteraining to watch. I'd hate to see him not play at all once Stuckey
>>>get's back.
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>>>I think Flip has been playing pretty well thus far...
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>>His "me first" mentality when he's at point is why I don't like him.
>>Generally, he only seems to pass off when he has no other choice. Some
>>nights I've seen him actually try to upgrade his assist stats, but
>>most nights its get the ball, dribble to the middle and see what
>>happens. He's a mini AI to me. Lindsey's basketball IQ is 100 times
>>higher than Flip Murray's and while Lindsey may be 2 or 3 steps slower
>>now, he's still a very good point guard on the defensive and offensive
>>side of the ball. He's much more complete a player, a better team
>>player than Flip. My hope is that Stuckey is more in the Lindsey mode
>>than the Flip mode.
>>Steve
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> I couldn't agree with this more. Flip often times dribbles the clock
> down and if he doesn't have a shot with 4 or 5 seconds left on the
> shot clock? He then passes the ball off to a player who's not in a
> high percentage situation to take a shot, but has to because of the
> clock. It's just SO irritating to watch. He doesn't seem to fit into
> the team type of game the Pistons play. But, like I said, I'm not
> objective, because I just DO NOT like this guy.
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> Brian
I agree that Flip does those things when he's not playing well. When
he's playing well, he can be a very effective scorer coming off a
bench that doesn't have much by way of effective scorers. Lindsey's
BB IQ may be higher -- I wouldn't honestly dispute that -- but Lindsey
can't score like Flip can. Maybe with Hayes and Maxiell being legit
offensive threats, Detroit doesn't need some scorer, any scorer, off
the bench. But I think Flip can be useful.
Whether you agree with that or not, however, Flip Saunders is going to
have some decisions to make about what the "regular rotation" of
guards is going to be, especially after Stuckey gets back. It's
unlikely that more than two guards coming off the bench will get
decent minutes on a regular basis. So two of these four
-- Flip M.,
Lindsey, Afflalo, and Stuckey -- will probably not get much time at
all.--Joe
