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Date: Jan 14, 2007 21:37
A qoute from today's column:
"Profiling of any kind in any area of life is always a risky business, and
sometimes a dangerous one. No one is saying that Roger Clemens is guilty
just because he fits the performance-enhancing profile. But even Clemens
himself has to understand why he's in the conversation now, and isn't
leaving it anytime soon."
I guess he is part of the conversation now that Lupica says so?
How did this guy ever get a job?
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Author: Ray O'HaraRay O'Hara Date: Jan 14, 2007 22:36
"Zod" aow.com> wrote in message
news:xe6dndVG1foMCTfYnZ2dnUVZ_rqhnZ2d@adelphia.com...> A qoute from today's column:
>
> "Profiling of any kind in any area of life is always a risky business, and
> sometimes a dangerous one. No one is saying that Roger Clemens is guilty
> just because he fits the performance-enhancing profile. But even Clemens
> himself has to understand why he's in the conversation now, and isn't
> leaving it anytime soon."
>
> I guess he is part of the conversation now that Lupica says so?
>
> How did this guy ever get a job?
>
>
others have noted roger's excellent "stamina" before the ass lupica did.
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Author: Ray DiPernaRay DiPerna Date: Jan 15, 2007 22:31
Double-Aces wrote:
> If you look at Clemmys photos as a Sox you would see that he has changed at
> least as much as Bonds, if not more. Why should a pitcher who's stats were
> on the decline and released from his first club for such reason, then to win
> CY Young's following this be less suspect that a prolific home run hitter?
> Thus Lupica is correct to speculate.
Well, first, he wasn't "released from his first club." His contract
was up. The Red Sox made a generous offer, but got outbid by the Blue
Jays.
Second, it's true that Clemens had a couple of years (1993 and 1995)
towards the end of his Red Sox career that were down years (for him).
But the stat often cited, his 40-39 W-L record over his last four years
there, vastly understates his performance. He led the league in ERA+
in 1994 and was second in K/9, and he was 4th in the league in ERA+ in
1996 while leading the league in K/9.
In 1996, his last year there, he struck out the 2nd most hitters in any
season in his career to that point, and his K/9 rate matched that. He
threw 242 innings as well. I fail to see what was wrong with his
performance in his last year in Boston.
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Author: Ray DiPernaRay DiPerna Date: Jan 15, 2007 22:34
John Doe wrote:
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> As for Rocket, he bulked up after being traded by Boston. He began his
> new workout regime with the Blue Jays trainer in the offseason after he
> was traded.
Clemens was never "traded" from Boston, and his body type had already
changed (I'm not suggesting it was due to steroids) before he left
Boston. I remember reading several articles attacking him for being
fat.
> Lupica and the rest of baseball are correct to raise questions, but
> Rocket should also be given the benefit of the doubt...we are still
> innocent until proven guilty, correct ?
That only applies to the legal system; we're free to form our own
conclusions about someone's "guilt" or "innocence." Would seem silly
to conclude that Clemens used steroids, given there is next to no
evidence to support that conclusion.
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Author: Double-AcesDouble-Aces Date: Jan 15, 2007 23:11
No longer a workhorse? You just answered the question goofy.
"Tom K" yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Zod wrote:
>> A qoute from today's column:
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>> "Profiling of any kind in any area of life...
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Author: Ray DiPernaRay DiPerna Date: Jan 16, 2007 01:12
Double-Aces wrote:
> The Sox told him that they didn't want him. Which they didn't. He was made
> to feel unwelcome thus he would opt not to return, offer or not. Clemens
> would not even talk to the Sox for years.
>
> He also STOLE Georges Hummer and mound dirt, he had his thieving kid help,
> even made George cry on TV. He also collapsed like a pussy in I believe what
> was his last Yanks game needing to be relieved by Mussina in the third
> inning.
>
> He also named his kids with first names beginning in K so he could have the
> KKK boys. FUCKTARD FUCKTARD FUCKTARD. If I shot heroin, did acid, smoked a
> doobie and snorted what your Mom keeps in her lipstick thing I still could
> not imagine doing that to anyone much less my own family, he is a classless
> retard.
>
> Otherwise he is a nice...
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