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Author: MalcolmMalcolm
Date: Sep 30, 2006 23:49
aol.com> wrote in message
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> Septic wrote:
>> yahoo.co.uk> wrote
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>>> ... The low-grade atheist is incapable of
>>> discussing his own belief-system
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>> Straw man alert. Atheism is not a belief system,
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> Your Strawman, Septic. He didn't say atheism was a belief system. He
> implied that a person has a belief system. Since human life is
> impossible without beliefs, his implication is well-founded. Even
> atheists have beliefs, Septic. And unless those beliefs are completely
> unrelated and unconnected to one another, they form a belief system.
>
It depends how you use the word "atheism".
You could say that it means "those who don't believe in God" or "those who
are heirs to the intellectual movement that began with the Enlightenment".
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Author: MalcolmMalcolm
Date: Sep 30, 2006 23:42
"Christopher A. Lee" optonline.net> wrote in message
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> Why do Malcolm and Roger keep pretending that atheism is anything
> different than not believing in pixies? It's a non-event that neither
> motivates nor justifies anything. Unlike theism. Nor does it pretend
> to provide morality - unlike theism which claims to and fails as
> evidenced by the behaviour of Malcolm and Roger.
>
Because the two propositions
"There exist little men who live in burrows and can go invisible"
and
"There exists a being who is the root cause of all that is"
are only very superficially similar. One is essentially limited, the other
is about the fundamental nature of reality. Disbelief in pixies has quite
different implications from disbelief in God.
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Author: KenKen
Date: Sep 30, 2006 23:40
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> On Sat, 30 Sep 2006 21:43:52 -0500, Adam Albright ABC.net> wrote:
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>>The trouble is different people age differently. You can be 90 and
>>drive better than your average 40 year old. Then you can be 30 and
>>drive worse then most 90 year olds.
>
> I guess that wouldn't be seen as that big of a problem. All states (I
> think) have a minimum age requirement for getting a license, not a
> maturity requirement (which would be harder to measure!)
>
> The real way to do it would be to require drivers to be re-tested
> every few years. I haven't had to take a driving test since I
> originally passed mine, back during the Johnson Admin. (Lyndon, not
> Andrew).
>
> The problem with that is that it would cost more than the automatic
> renewal system we have now. And who would bitch and whine and moan
> about the added cost? You guessed it. ...
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Author: Truth B. ToldTruth B. Told
Date: Sep 30, 2006 23:22
Soon-to-be former Representative Mark Foley (R - FL), who is said to
have extensive expertise in the area of children's behinds, has been
recruited by President Bush to administer the new program.
"A behind is a nice thing, ya know, a real nice thing for a young boy
to have...and you just can't ignore such a nice thing, ya know, and
Mark Foley, ya know, has shown me that he has...what would you call
it... the right tool?...yeah, tool...the right tool to do the job,"
said the President.
T.B. Told
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Author: KenKen
Date: Sep 30, 2006 23:09
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> "liberalsareswine" wrote in message
> news:%%%%ETg.579$UJ2.191@fed1read07...
>> Yeah, this criticism from the Asshole Jimmy Carter, who helped Iran get
>> rid of it's American ally the Shah, then helped bring in and recognize
>> the lunatic Ayotollah Komeni. The same Jimmy Carter who couldn't figure
>> out what to do afterward, let Iran hold hostages for the rest of his
>> term. Carter was so fucking stupid and incompetent, that as an incumbent
>> in the next election, he only carried one state. One liberal, left wing
>> state. Even the Blacks wouldn't vote for the stupid son of a bitch a
>> second time. His daughter became some kind of anti American protester,
>> and now his son wants to follow in dad's footsteps and present himself
>> for public ridicule. Another stupid Carter move was to try and pull all
>> our missiles out of Europe so our enemies wouldn't be afraid. Someone
>> with some brains took him aside and explained why it wasn't feasible.
>> The best thing Carter ever did in his life was retire. He thinks he can
>> revise history and become a statesman by making a fool of himself anew.
> ...
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Author: THE PUGINATORTHE PUGINATOR
Date: Sep 30, 2006 23:08
"sleeper" wrote in message
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> liberalsareswine waxed rhapsodic in
> news:%%%%ETg.579$UJ2.191@fed1read07:
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>> Yeah, this criticism from the Asshole Jimmy Carter, who helped Iran get
>
> [snip]
>
> yeah, building houses for poor people sure is an asshole thing to do.
>
> i suppose christ was an asshole, too, huh?
>
> --
> http://www.kexp.org
>
> listener-powered and commercial-free.
Christians in America could give a fuck less about Christ.
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Author: 2711 Dead2711 Dead
Date: Sep 30, 2006 22:57
http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6117420,00.html
Baghdad Shut Down on Suspicion of Attack
Sunday October 1, 2006 6:01 AM
AP Photo BAG106
By PATRICK QUINN
Associated Press Writer
BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) - The U.S. military said a captured al-Qaida
suspect and members of his cell were ``in the final stages'' of
planning an attack on the Green Zone. An unprecedented curfew prompted
by the arrest left millions of Baghdadis stranded at home on Saturday
without supplies during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan.
The U.S. military said the suspected al-Qaida in Iraq member was
arrested late Friday at the home of senior Sunni Arab political leader
Adnan al-Dulaimi, where he was working as a personal bodyguard.
Al-Dulaimi is a member of the Iraqi Accordance Front - the largest
Sunni coalition in the 275-member parliament, where it holds 44 seats
- and the military was quick to distance the politician from the raid,
stressing that he was ``not the target.''
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Author: DeadratDeadrat
Date: Sep 30, 2006 22:48
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> On 30-Sep-2006, Deadrat b.com> wrote:
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>>> On 30-Sep-2006, Danzig telus.net> wrote:
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>>>>> lamenting that Hanoi Jane was never punished for her conduct.
>>>>>
>>>>> We tell...
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Author: 2711 Dead2711 Dead
Date: Sep 30, 2006 21:36
http://observer.guardian.co.uk/world/story/0,,1884879,00.html
White House in crisis over 'Iraq lies' claims
[Zeppnote: Putsch lied America into war. Gosh! Who'da guessed?]
Watergate journalist's new book exposes how Bush has kept the US
public in the dark about the true costs of the 'war on terror'
Paul Harris in New York
Sunday October 1, 2006
The Observer
President George Bush was braced for one of the toughest fights of his
political life yesterday as a fierce row broke out over whether he has
been misleading the American public over the worsening violence in
Iraq. The crisis also rippled across the Atlantic with claims that the
administration hid crucial Iraq intelligence from its British allies.
Sparking the crisis was a series of leaks from a hard-hitting new book
by the political journalist Bob Woodward, one of the two Washington
Post reporters who broke the Watergate scandal that engulfed the Nixon
administration three decades ago.
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Author: 2711 Dead2711 Dead
Date: Sep 30, 2006 21:28
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/washington/01foley.html?hp&ex=1159761600&en=72f54d420adcb9e2&ei...
[Zeppnote: who needs a Catholic priest when, for only 100 times as
much money, you can have a GOP Congressman?]
G.O.P. Aides Knew in Late Â’05 of E-Mail
Article Tools Sponsored By
By CARL HULSE and RAYMOND HERNANDEZ
Published: October 1, 2006
WASHINGTON, Sept. 30 — Top House Republicans knew for months about
e-mail traffic between Representative Mark Foley and a former teenage
page, but kept the matter secret and allowed Mr. Foley to remain head
of a Congressional caucus on childrenÂ’s issues, Republican lawmakers
said Saturday.
Mark Foley had represented Palm Beach in Congress for six terms.
The exchanges began with what Republicans now describe as an
“overfriendly” e-mail message from Mr. Foley to the unidentified
teenager.
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