Whilst standing in line at the post office
  Home FAQ Contact Sign in
alt.snailmail only
 
Advanced search
POPULAR GROUPS

more...

alt.snailmail Profile…
 Up
Whilst standing in line at the post office         


Author: Adam H. Kerman
Date: Jun 4, 2008 13:35

Bad Things Happen (tm) when one forgets to pay his box fee on time.

The rent on one of my post office boxes expired at the end of March. It
was a very busy time for me. I wasn't checking the mail and didn't send
in the check. I asked the other person who accepts mail for the
organization to pay the fee. He used the envelope provided but the
payment didn't get posted till the middle of the following month,
although I don't think he really mailed it that late.

This had been No Big Deal in the past; I admit to paying late before.
The locks were supposed to be changed if the fee is more than 10 days
late and the box closed. But changing locks was a low priority and
typically the box wouldn't be closed all that promptly, assuming the
customer would renew.

It seems with the new, much higher lock change fee, the post office is
treating it as a profit center, like bank fees, so those locks get
yanked on a priority basis.
Show full article (3.22Kb)
9 Comments
Re: Whilst standing in line at the post office         


Author: Long Gone
Date: Jun 4, 2008 20:36

"Adam H. Kerman" chinet.com> wrote in message
news:XqWdnaNL8IE5YdvVnZ2dnUVZ_uadnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Bad Things Happen (tm) when one forgets to pay his box fee on time.

Not just you Adam but to anyone that doesn't pay on time.
> The rent on one of my post office boxes expired at the end of March. It
> was a very busy time for me. I wasn't checking the mail and didn't send
> in the check. I asked the other person who accepts mail for the
> organization to pay the fee. He used the envelope provided but the
> payment didn't get posted till the middle of the following month,
> although I don't think he really mailed it that late.

Box should be blocked on April 1 and closed on April 11 if payment not
received. A renewal notice should have been put in the box in early March.
> This had been No Big Deal in the past; I admit to paying late before.
> The locks were supposed to be changed if the fee is more than 10 days
> late and the box closed. But changing locks was a low priority and
> typically the box wouldn't be closed all that promptly, assuming the
> customer would renew.
Show full article (5.56Kb)
no comments
Re: Whilst standing in line at the post office         


Author: Adam H. Kerman
Date: Jun 4, 2008 23:03

Long Gone nospamforadam.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" chinet.com> wrote:
>>The rent on one of my post office boxes expired at the end of March. It
>>was a very busy time for me. I wasn't checking the mail and didn't send
>>in the check. I asked the other person who accepts mail for the
>>organization to pay the fee. He used the envelope provided but the
>>payment didn't get posted till the middle of the following month,
>>although I don't think he really mailed it that late.
>Box should be blocked on April 1 and closed on April 11 if payment not
>received.

I've never had my boxes closed for renewing late. If your office does
that, that's a little harsh. They've plugged the lock to remind me to
pay but still place mail in the box.
>>This had been No Big Deal in the past; I admit to paying late before.
>>The locks were supposed to be changed if the fee is more than 10 days
>>late and the box closed. But changing locks was a low priority and
>>typically the box wouldn't be closed all that promptly, assuming the
>>customer would renew.
Show full article (7.93Kb)
no comments
Re: Whilst standing in line at the post office         


Author: Long Gone
Date: Jun 5, 2008 04:48

"Adam H. Kerman" chinet.com> wrote in message
news:h_ydnQTuhr4JHNrVnZ2dnUVZ_tHinZ2d@comcast.com...
(clip)
> I've never had my boxes closed for renewing late. If your office does
> that, that's a little harsh. They've plugged the lock to remind me to
> pay but still place mail in the box.

What is harsh about following procedures? As I explained, the rent is due
on or before the last day of the month. If not paid, the box is blocked
(plugged) to deny access and mail continues to be placed in the box. On the
11th of the next month, the box is closed for non-payment and mail is
returned to sender. It is similar but different from how your utility
company handles deliqent accounts. Don't they disconnect at a specific time
for non-payment? You call that harsh but it seems quite businesslike to me.
> You're saying this isn't by design? Somebody at Elephant Center's bonus
> relies on these lock change fees being collected.

No, you are saying that. Why would you try to minimize a valid business
practice?
> I really don't recall a lock change fee before a year ago. What was it?
Show full article (5.94Kb)
no comments
Re: Whilst standing in line at the post office         


Author: Adam H. Kerman
Date: Jun 5, 2008 08:06

Long Gone nospamforadam.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" chinet.com> wrote:
>>I've never had my boxes closed for renewing late. If your office does
>>that, that's a little harsh. They've plugged the lock to remind me to
>>pay but still place mail in the box.
>What is harsh about following procedures?

It's a basic concept of marketing. It costs a fortune to attract a new
customer, significantly less to keep a customer. So not closing the box
for a few more days is reasonable accomodation.
>It is similar but different from how your utility company handles deliqent
>accounts. Don't they disconnect at a specific time for non-payment?

Yeah, they do, but one would have to miss two or three payments in a row
in addition to ignoring required "final notice prior to disconnection"
letters.
>You call that harsh but it seems quite businesslike to me.

But the post office isn't a monopoly for these kinds of services any more.
>>You're saying this isn't by design? Somebody at Elephant Center's bonus
>>relies on these lock change fees being collected.
Show full article (6.50Kb)
no comments
Re: Whilst standing in line at the post office         


Author: Postal Patrol
Date: Jun 5, 2008 11:00

I agree that USPS seems to be a little more ruthless about box renewals.

I received a renewal notice in my box, duly sent my check in late
December in the provided self-addressed postage-paid envelope
addressed to the unit/branch where the box is located (the
envelope placed in the box requesting payment).

Next thing I know, I get a certified letter telling me my box rent
was not received and that I no longer had a box.

I found that my check was processed a couple of days after their
cutoff dealine. (I mailed the check around December 20, the check was
cashed on something like January 14.)

I was able to retain the box, but what a giant pain it was.
I had numerous problems reinstating magazine subscriptions and
other correspondence because senders saw their mail returned as
"box closed."
Show full article (1.42Kb)
no comments
Re: Whilst standing in line at the post office         


Author: Long Gone
Date: Jun 5, 2008 11:28

"Adam H. Kerman" chinet.com> wrote in message
news:_q-dnYvfXrZhndXVnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com...
(clip)
> It's a basic concept of marketing. It costs a fortune to attract a new
> customer, significantly less to keep a customer. So not closing the box
> for a few more days is reasonable accomodation.

We shall have to agree to disagree. The customer has three opportunities to
pay the bill before the box is closed. An inital notice the rent is due by
the end of the month. A second notice (at least in many offices) toward the
end of the month to remind the customer. Then the "final notice prior to
disconnection" when the box is blocked (and unavailable for mail pickup
without paying rent) for the next ten days. You are just wanting the Postal
Service (or any other business) to overlook your delay in taking care of
business.
> But the post office isn't a monopoly for these kinds of services any more.
Show full article (3.64Kb)
no comments
Re: Whilst standing in line at the post office         


Author: Adam H. Kerman
Date: Jun 5, 2008 12:50

Long Gone nospamforadam.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" chinet.com> wrote:
>>It's a basic concept of marketing. It costs a fortune to attract a new
>>customer, significantly less to keep a customer. So not closing the box
>>for a few more days is reasonable accomodation.
>We shall have to agree to disagree. The customer has three opportunities to
>pay the bill before the box is closed. An inital notice the rent is due by
>the end of the month. A second notice (at least in many offices) toward the
>end of the month to remind the customer. Then the "final notice prior to
>disconnection" when the box is blocked (and unavailable for mail pickup
>without paying rent) for the next ten days. You are just wanting the Postal
>Service (or any other business) to overlook your delay in taking care of
>business.

It's delayed gratification!
>>But the post office isn't a monopoly for these kinds of services any more.
>I presume you are talking about alternate delivery through a PMB.

I have never heard a real person use that abbreviation.
Show full article (4.26Kb)
no comments
Re: Whilst standing in line at the post office         


Author: Long Gone
Date: Jun 5, 2008 19:37

"Adam H. Kerman" chinet.com> wrote in message
news:LsCdnTKQhvbw3tXVnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@comcast.com...
(clip)
> It's delayed gratification!

That line is so open I fight to resist and I will.
> I have never heard a real person use that abbreviation.

What else would you call it? Your office suite?
> Mail drops are competition, and so are shared office places. Both accept
> shipments. For a long time, many would offer better hours than post
> office box lobbies, all too often shut during evenings. Long ago when I
> moonlighted, that post office was unusual in that it kept its box lobby
> open during all hours the building was staffed. Locked at 7 pm, it
> reopened shortly after midnight when the mail handlers arrived.

I regret that you live in a crime capital that necessitates such action. I
am used to having 24/7 access to my post office box lobby. The post office
is not open anywhere near that long. However, we do have an APC to serve
the public's mailing needs when the office is closed. Adam, you really need
to travel more. You might even find someplace else more exciting and less
expensive to live.
Show full article (4.01Kb)
no comments
Re: Whilst standing in line at the post office         


Author: Adam H. Kerman
Date: Jun 5, 2008 21:24

Long Gone nospamforadam.net> wrote:
>"Adam H. Kerman" chinet.com> wrote:
>>I have never heard a real person use that abbreviation.
>What else would you call it? Your office suite?

A mail drop. That's what such places were called in the Real World for
eighty years.
>>Mail drops are competition, and so are shared office places. Both accept
>>shipments. For a long time, many would offer better hours than post
>>office box lobbies, all too often shut during evenings. Long ago when I
>>moonlighted, that post office was unusual in that it kept its box lobby
>>open during all hours the building was staffed. Locked at 7 pm, it
>>reopened shortly after midnight when the mail handlers arrived.
>I regret that you live in a crime capital that necessitates such action. I
>am used to having 24/7 access to my post office box lobby.

Certain suburbs leave the box lobbies open while the post office is
unattended. But none of the stations and branches of the Chicago Post
Office do. Hell, many of the stations/branches would lock the box
lobbies when the retail windows closed.
>Adam, you really need to travel more.
Show full article (4.79Kb)
no comments

RELATED THREADS
SubjectArticles qty Group
revert to office xp from office 2003 free trialmicrosoft.public.powerpoint ·