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Date: Nov 18, 2006 22:17
I enjoy playing "Panic" via Mega CD emulation,
but I really need a save state available,
otherwise it's tedious having to restart it
all over again.
Does anyone know much about other Mega CD emulators?
Harvey
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Author: BelPowerslaveBelPowerslave Date: Nov 18, 2006 22:35
Harvey@NZ wrote:
> I enjoy playing "Panic" via Mega CD emulation,
> but I really need a save state available,
> otherwise it's tedious having to restart it
> all over again.
> Does anyone know much about other Mega CD emulators?
>
> Harvey
>
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Author: blackevilweredragonblackevilweredragon Date: Nov 19, 2006 21:36
I don't think Gens allows for save-states via Sega CD emulation..
Save-states for Sega CD are hard, because not only does it have to
capture the registers and RAM contents of the Genesis (and VRAM and
palletes, etc), it has to do that for the Sega CD too.. and trying to
start an emulator to be in "sync" with it, just won't work, because it
also has to emulate the CD-Controller of the Sega CDs, which can't be
"peeked" (word stolen from my Commodore 64 life)..
BelPowerslave wrote:
> Harvey@NZ wrote:
>> I enjoy playing "Panic" via Mega CD emulation,
>> but I really need a save state available,
>> otherwise it's tedious having to restart it
>> all over again.
>> Does anyone know much about other Mega CD emulators?
>>
>> Harvey
>>
>
> Gens allows for Save States:
> ...
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Author: BelPowerslaveBelPowerslave Date: Nov 20, 2006 01:12
> I don't think Gens allows for save-states via Sega CD emulation..
It does, trust me, I've used them quite a bit. :)
> Save-states for Sega CD are hard, because not only does it have to
> capture the registers and RAM contents of the Genesis (and VRAM and
> palletes, etc), it has to do that for the Sega CD too.. and trying to
> start an emulator to be in "sync" with it, just won't work, because it
> also has to emulate the CD-Controller of the Sega CDs, which can't be
> "peeked" (word stolen from my Commodore 64 life)..
It does work...though you have to have the game booted up and
running(you can't do it just from the title screen most times).
Bel
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Author: blackevilweredragonblackevilweredragon Date: Nov 20, 2006 08:38
ok, if the game has to be actually running, it sounds like a they did a
CD-Controller trick... im surprised it worked..
it's KEGA Fusion that doesn't support it though... (that's what they
get for making the best/most accurate emulator)
BelPowerslave wrote:
>> I don't think Gens allows for save-states via Sega CD emulation...
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Author: BelPowerslaveBelPowerslave Date: Nov 20, 2006 11:16
> ok, if the game has to be actually running, it sounds like a they did a
> CD-Controller trick... im surprised it worked..
Well, it doesn't work all the time, but most times I really will. It
also depends on where you save it at.
> it's KEGA Fusion that doesn't support it though... (that's what they
> get for making the best/most accurate emulator)
People always rave about Kega, and it is good...for like, the 15
worthless games Gens won't play...but now that we've got Gens Plus and
Gens 32, I just don't see any reason for leaving Gens...
Bel
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Author: blackevilweredragonblackevilweredragon Date: Nov 20, 2006 12:30
Well, Fusion supports more, and is aimed at "perfection", rather than
performance..
Fusion is the ONLY emulator to truly support the Genesis 480i mode..
(only works in Double or Scanline mode-----where scanline mode shows
how it REALLY works).
Gens doing 480i mode downscales it to 280p, and if your in double mode
in Gens, it downscales it to 240p, then BACK up to 480i..
Fusion also is the only emulator to emulate the 32X/CD combo..
BelPowerslave wrote:
>> ok, if the game has to be actually running, it sounds like a they did a
>> CD-Controller trick... im surprised it worked..
>
> Well, it doesn't work all the time, but most times...
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Author: BelPowerslaveBelPowerslave Date: Nov 20, 2006 14:34
> Well, Fusion supports more, and is aimed at "perfection", rather than
> performance..
>
> Fusion is the ONLY emulator to truly support the Genesis 480i mode..
> (only works in Double or Scanline mode-----where scanline mode shows
> how it REALLY works).
>
> Gens doing 480i mode downscales it to 280p, and if your in double mode
> in Gens, it downscales it to 240p, then BACK up to 480i..
Yeah, I can dig it...problem is, when you're playing Genesis games via
emulation, who wants 480i mode? You want something your EDTV *can't*
do, you know? Kind of like using the smoothing effects on SNES games in
ZNES or something.
> Fusion also is the only emulator to emulate the 32X/CD combo..
Um....yeah, it can....but, well, um....;)
Bel
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Author: blackevilweredragonblackevilweredragon Date: Nov 20, 2006 21:33
No, it shows 480i over a regular computer monitor.. the 480i mode is
emulated..
Sega Genesis Sonic 2 - Split Screen was a 480i mode.. and all
emulators mash the pixels vertically, only Fusion can keep the full
resolution..
http://blackevilweredragon.spymac.com/sonic2.JPG
Notice the vertical pixels aren't doubled, that's because Fusion can
handle the real 480i mode... (it shows it as 480p---unless your in
"scanline" mode, then it would emulate the interlacing in your
progressive scan monitor)
Gens won't show like that, each "odd" scanline would be completely
missing..
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Author: blackevilweredragonblackevilweredragon Date: Nov 20, 2006 21:46
i know quite a bit about SDTV, EDTV, and HDTV's.. I'm a video
electronics expert, hell, im taking apart some older TVs, and actually
making them have higher resolutions! (the yoke---is the key)
I have actually made an old black and white TV of mine, do 480p (EDTV)
by simply replacing the yoke on the already existing tube and gun...
works like a charm (though it needs a "Y" only input---the RF tuner no
way would handle that)
Also my expertise, is an HDTV/EDTVs "scaler" and "deinterlacer".. if
you have any advanced questions for me, feel free...
(oh, and too most EDTVs and HDTVs, the Genesis 240p and 480i, are the
same.. electrically, they are no different, except the 240p has
overlapping "fields
------so most EDTV and HDTVs scalers unnecessarily
treat the 240p as 480i and try and de-interlace and already
non-interlaced image)
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