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Group: alt.seduction.fast · Group Profile
Author: Odious
Date: Aug 1, 2008 20:03

Here's what gordo has previously stated regarding what constitutes
harassment or threats.....
_____________________________________________________
From: notraymondx@juno.com (Ray G Smith)
Subject: Re: Ray Gordon Abusive Posting
Date: 1998/06/12

<--------Stalking refers to attempts to contact or harass people, and it
must involve threats to their safety. Existing stalking laws can also be
applied to online and have been. But keep in mind that anyone can block
e-mail and instant messages, and that they do not have to read USENET. Libel
even is not stalking, if it were even libel, which it is not.

<-----------Be specific as to which threats. USENET is archived. Go ahead,
try to find a threat, please. According to the FBI, a threat has to be a
specific statement of intent to commit a specific harm against a specific
individual. WORDING IS VERY IMPORTANT. You also might want to check out
the many death threats posted against me while you are at it. You are trying
to argue a legal case in an unmoderated environment as well, a case where
you are not even directly involved and in which your level of
self-involvement with would disqualify you from sitting on any jury.

<------What corporation is that? Might explain your motive. Which posts to
which you are referring? Evidence is crucial in cases like this, and you
are being deliberately vague.

<-----Which threats, posted when, and where? Be SPECIFIC.

<----A specific statement of intent to commit a specific harm against a
specific person. By the way, people threaten murder in many fistfights all
the time. The police view it in context, however, and do not prosecute for
that very often if at all. Latrell Spreewell admitted to threatening to
kill his coach and was not even charged with a crime.

<-----------Simple enough. If anyone feels stalked or threatened, a
restraining order is the correct first step. It is when the restraining
order is violated that the stalking laws kick in.

<----------It was an illegal statement made under extenuating circumstances.
You have built your whole post on the premise that you have accurate
information. You do not.
_____________________________________________________

So gordo.... what exact part of this letter contains anything even close to
meeting the standard you stated?

_____________________________________________________

From: Like you really care who this is.. <.....last room on the right...>
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast,alt.usenet.kooks,misc.legal
Subject: Re: ....the letter.....
Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2007 18:31:41 -0400

Dear Ms. Parker

I am writing you about your son, Gordon Roy Parker, and his activities
on the Internet and in
various courts in Pennsylvania and Delaware. Gordon first came to my
attention in October of 1996,
when he would have been 28 years old. At this point in time, Gordon was
posting mostly in groups
related to hypnosis under the nic 'WhizardRay' and calling himself Ray
Gordon. Allow me to quote
from the Usenet article that brought your son to my attention, originally
posted by a third party:

" As she explained to me, her contact with "WhizardRay" was an
hour-long phone conversation six months ago. As she described it, she spent
the last 30 minutes
trying to diplomatically disengage herself from a person whose needs were
far beyond her ability to
address. (Tabitah is a graduate of Don Mottin's fine school, but by her own
evaluation she hardly
has the depth of expertise ascribed to her by WhizardRay.) Tabitha assured
me that she never
hypnotized Gordon, that the extent of contact had been the one short
conversation and a letter that
tried to sever contact gracefully. Tabitha was not prepared for what came
next when she made it
clear she did not want to continue contact
Endless phone calls both to her home and her office, faxes, e-mail,
harrassment whenever she
logged onto AOL, e-mail from strangers, and, she says, threats against her
son, threats to have
people "visit her."
Tabitha moved and changed her phone number. WhizardRay got the new
address and number and
continued the harrassment. She endured and hoped he would go away. He
hasn't.
Taking a few hours to investigate I found the following:
His full AOL profile has already been posted in this discussion group.
It strongly suggests he does not like women, blaming them for his problems,
his failures. His name
is not Ray Gordon.
His real name is Gordon Roy Parker. He lives with his mother and
brother in a converted hotel
called the Fairfax Apartments at 4247 Locust Street, Apt 806, Philadelphia
PA 19104. Gordon's phone
number is 215-386-7366."

Around this time, Gordon was trying to pass himself off as the CEO of a
software company. His
alleged business was "Ray Gordon Software, Inc". At the time there was
evidence that either you or
your son was running a word processing business out of your apartment, and
there is still some
confusion who is in control of Penn Word Processing. There is little doubt
that Gordon is the
primary force behind Snodgrass Publishing.

Around May of 1998, Gordon discovered the newsgroup alt.seduction.fast, a
group that would occupy
him for eight years and counting. The first posts I have been able to find
on this group are under
the nic 'seducer9917'. Most of his posts to this group initially were either
attacking the members,
or giving advice that was just a repeat of what other posters to this group
had posted earlier.
Gordon also posted regularly to newsgroups related to horse racing, chess,
gymnastics and romance
around this time. Although I am not personally familiar with these topics, I
have been assured by
those that were that Gordon's tactics in these groups were similar in
nature. This continued for
several years.

During the following three years, Gordon would routinely try to pass
himself off as a gymnastics
coach. This was made even more disturbing when it was discovered that Gordon
was writing rape
stories staring several underaged female gymnasts. Allow me to quote a few
paragraphs of his story
"Ray Gordon vs. The Magnificent Seven":

"Now do you understand, cunt?" Ray asked Shannon, the teen's gaze riveted to
the transformation of
little Dominique.
The little teen was being raped to death, and she was urging her black
rapists to even greater
heights of depravity. A tear came to Shannon's eyes, and she nodded her
head. Yes, she did
understand. This was hell, and these men were soul- less demons. "Let's
check out Razorman," Ray
dragged Shannon by the hair over to where the knifemaster and his squad were
flaying Amanda Borden
and Jaycie Phelps alive.
Close at Razorman's heals was Cannibal, who lived up to his name.
Amanda was in worse shape
than Jaycie, and it was obvious the chunky, muscular teen had been
attempting to fight off Razorman
and his men. She was now being held down as the Razor skillfully carved
graffiti over her muscular
body with a laser-sharp pen knife.
CUNT! SLAVE! WHORE! PAIN-TOY! DOG! PIG!
The blood-carved words assaulted the eyes like the carnage from an airplane
crash. Amanda was
sobbing hysterically, the pain overwhelmed by the very thought that she was
being skinned alive.

After this was revealed, your son stopped trying to solicit gymnasts to
coach, but he does still
regularly post to the gymnastics newsgroups.

Gordon also has threatened to harm the daughter of a woman whom he was
having a disagreement with
around this time. Gordon also wished death on another woman who was
suffering from cancer. Gordon
even threatened to "wipe that grin off your face with a baseball bat".
Everybody thought that your
son had sunk as low as anybody could sink when he tried to attribute the
"bat" comment to you.
Little did we know that we were to be proven very, very wrong.

On September 11th, 2001, there were 4 terrorist attacks committed against
the United States, killing
over 3,000 people. These attacks shocked and horrified most people the world
over. So, you can
imagine the disgust that overcame regulars of the same newsgroups that your
son posts to when he
posted these choice quotes in the following hours:

"There was no significant loss of life in those towers. Not a one."
- Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

"This attack happened in my HOMETOWN, a hometown I do not live in or work in
because of illegal
behavior. I hope those who swiped my ability to live there enjoy the
message they got from GOD
today.........."
- Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

"In that building existed little more than a bunch of companies which hire
"office whores" and the
like. I have no sympathy for employment discriminators, and if someone had
to die in this attack, I
couldn't think of a better group of people for the terrorists to pick."
- Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

"Now you know what it's like to see your horrors mocked the way mine have
been. That's not mental
illness, that's a political message, apparently delivered quite
brilliantly."
- Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

"There was no significant loss of life in those towers. Their own evil is
what prevented me from
being among the dead, and which added the "Unknown Office Whore" to their
numbers because god forbid
some loser executive would have to hire a man.Those corporations could have
hired me, put me to
work in that building, let me live in NYC, and experience all of the fun
that's going on up there
now."
- Gordon Roy Parker (aka Ray Gordon), September 11, 2001

It was around this time that your son started filing numerous meritless
lawsuits against several
people and entities. The list of defendants in your sons lawsuits include,
but are not limited to,
The University of Pennsylvania, Ross Jeffries of California, Learn The
Skills, and Thom Geiger of
Mississippi. Most of these lawsuits have been dismissed because of filing
errors made by your son.
For example, the reverse gender discrimination lawsuit against UPenn was
dismissed because Gordon
never applied for a specific job, and the case against Learn The Skills was
dismissed for lack of
jurisdiction.

The most noteworthy lawsuit that Gordon filed was a copyright infringement
case that he brought
against Google claiming damages in excess of ten billion dollars. This case
was dismissed last year
for failure to state a claim. Right now, Google is trying to claim eleven
thousand dollars in
damages against your son. While Google attempts to win that claim against
your son, Gordon is busy
trying to prosecute another lawsuit against Learn The Skills, Ross Jeffries
and Thom Geiger. This
case is being prosecuted in Delaware. In the Delaware case, Gordon's
pleadings consist of movie
quotes and blatantly inaccurate information. As you can imagine, Gordon's
case isn't going well. It
is only a matter of time before Gordon is called to task over his recent
behaviour in the judicial
system. You may want to examine what kind of liability you would encounter
should Google's motion
for damages be approved, considering that you are his primary method of
support.

One thing is clear: Over the past decade, your son's condition has
deteriorated. If you're still his
primary means of support, you should consider what would become of him
after you pass on. You
should also consider weather or not your son is in need of psychiatric help,
before the decision is
made for you, most likely by law enforcement, as there is a possibility that
your son will stop
fantasizing about violence and actually try some of the things he writes
about.
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