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Author: HellBwatHellBwat Date: Jul 3, 2007 22:22
How many times have you seen a pretty girl or woman and wanted so
badly to go up and just talk to her but yet you just can't, why
because your emotional brain just shut down your cognitive brain, so
no matter how hard you try you just fail each and every time.
The problem doesn't lie in your cognitive brain where nlp or hypnosis
works, but in the emotional part of the brain also known as the limbic
system.
There is where the problem is and must be dealt with. The simple
explanation is, see pretty woman, you start to sweat, your face turns
red is the first sign that your emotional brain is shutting down the
cognitive brain preparing you for fight or flight.
Let's take Ross Jefferies for instance, is he a god?, is he a guru?
No, he is just a man like you, but the only thing that separates him
from you is his beliefs about speed seduction, his attitude and
experience, other than that he is no different from you or I.
Take also Tom Vizzini, some think he is a god, some think he preforms
magic and has this great power but he has none of that, what he has is
a great set of learned skills, which he can use to persuade people or
help them change.
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Author: mstrhypnomstrhypno Date: Jul 6, 2007 04:58
On Jul 5, 1:41 pm, "Tom Vizzini" essential-skills.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 5, 9:05 am, "Tom Vizzini" essential-skills.com> wrote:
>>> "mstrhypno" earthlink.net> wrote in message
>>>> Tell that to the many people who get killed or who get their backsides
>>>> kicked DURING that "little chunk distinction" you're talking about,
>>>> Tom. It's that "little chunk distinction" that comprises the most
>>>> time in any combat training program - time dedicated to OVERCOMING
>>>> that response!
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>>> It doesn't matter. I'm not talking about combat training. I'm kind of
>>> confused as to why you are talking about combat training.
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>> Beacuse YOU referred to the misnomered "fight or flight" response arc,
>> which has several more steps IN it than those simple two - and they
>> relate to more situations than combat, but the response arc is the
>> same, regardless of whether the perceived threat is a combat situation ...
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Author: Tom VizziniTom Vizzini Date: Jul 6, 2007 05:30
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> Tom, quit ignoring facts and address them. A freeze is a freeze and
> ignoring it does not make it go away. The re-anchoring process is
> biological and self-reinforcing. It's not MY process or my method.
> It's Mother Nature's.
And it remains unimportant.
> Disagree all you want, the freeze response will still occur. And each
> time it does, it reinforces the self-limiting beliefs that the person
> has simply because the person freezes.
In the context of this thread what you are saying is absolutely unimportant.
The point of the thread was that the higher the emotional response the less
cognitive ability that you have.
For some reason your brain is frozen on the freeze response. I have no clue
why and can make no sense of your posts.
For some reason you want to make the point that the freeze response is part
of an arc. Who cares? I don't care enough to get into a debate about the
freeze response with you.
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Author: Tom VizziniTom Vizzini Date: Jul 6, 2007 06:40
"Tom Vizzini" essential-skills.com> wrote in message
news:T5OdnSbY3s_9qBPbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@adelphia.com...
>You took one sentence in a long post I decided to be disagreeable.
Should have read:
You took one sentence in a long post 'and' decided to be disagreeable.
Although the first one may be true as well!
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Author: OdiousOdious Date: Jul 6, 2007 08:08
"Tom Vizzini" essential-skills.com> wrote in message
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>>>
>> Tom, quit ignoring facts and address them. A freeze is a freeze and
>> ignoring it does not make it go away. The re-anchoring process is
>> biological and self-reinforcing. It's not MY process or my method.
>> It's Mother Nature's.
>
> And it remains unimportant.
>
>
>> Disagree all you want, the freeze response will still occur. And each
>> time it does, it reinforces the self-limiting beliefs that the person
>> has simply because the person freezes.
>
> In the context of this thread what you are saying is absolutely
> unimportant. ...
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Author: OdiousOdious Date: Jul 6, 2007 08:09
"Tom Vizzini" essential-skills.com> wrote in message
news:nLadndxUH6962BPbnZ2dnUVZ_hadnZ2d@adelphia.com...
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> "Tom Vizzini" essential-skills.com> wrote in message
> news:T5OdnSbY3s_9qBPbnZ2dnUVZ_vShnZ2d@adelphia.com...
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>>You took one sentence in a long post I decided to be disagreeable.
>
> Should have read:
>
> You took one sentence in a long post 'and' decided to be disagreeable.
>
> Although the first one may be true as well!
Tom sure seems to be dedicated to using technology that works poorly or not
at all.... so clearly you should buy his technology for tinkering with your
brain.
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Author: HellBwatHellBwat Date: Jul 6, 2007 09:25
Well it is time to open this discussion with some hard facts and not
the opinions the other sides seems only be able to produce.
I shall be quoting from two books, since I am not sure exactly where I
might infringe upon copy right laws, I will give the idea they are
trying to convey an give pg and paragraph so you can read it for
yourself.
Two books I shall be referring you too is The Instinct to Heal by
David Servan Schreiber M.D. Ph. D. and a neuroscientist
The second one is The EQ Difference by Adele B. Lynn a specialist in
emotional intelligence.
If I say healing is will be the first book and if I say EQ is will be
the second book.
Healing: pg 27 Starting with the 11th sentence down, he clearly
states that when the brain perceives danger the emotional brain can
shut down the cognitive brain. Believe it or not just walking up to a
pretty woman and trying to talk to her can be a perceived threat,
where the heart will race, and you will sweat and lose all power of
speech.
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Author: AlexAlex Date: Jul 6, 2007 09:54
>
> That is absolutely true. I have ignored 70 years worth of stupidity. This
> behavioral science gave us things like electro-shock therapy
Someone obviously hasn't read the latest research on electro-shock therapy.
Shocking.
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Author: HellBwatHellBwat Date: Jul 6, 2007 19:53
Maybe he has, your reading is about the positive effects, promoted by
those who profit but the real truth is in the article below. They
state electroshock therapy should be banned and give you the reason
why.
http://www.sntp.net/ect/ect3.htm
Wake up dumbass
UnkaH
On Jul 6, 12:54 pm, Alex nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote:
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>> That is absolutely true. I have ignored 70 years worth of stupidity. This
>> behavioral science gave us things like electro-shock therapy
>
> Someone obviously hasn't read the latest research on electro-shock therapy.
>
> Shocking.
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