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The Ray Gordon Fallacy         


Author: corky
Date: Jul 7, 2008 20:30

Here on fast seduction, Ray Gordon often states that techniques become
obselete and media exposure makes them useless. This is not true. Reality
has shown that the basics are just that -basics that don't change. I have
used them for years with great success. I went from AFC to having anything I
want. Nobody I know has noticed any changes since the media appearance of
game or Mystery's show.

This is fact. Basic seduction techniqe is effective. It is based on human
nature and psychology. Any man who puts effort into learning and changing
will get results.

Ray Gordon is wrong. Ask anyone else with knowledge of the subject and you
will hear the same thing.
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Re: The Ray Gordon Fallacy         


Author: Odious
Date: Jul 7, 2008 21:13

"corky" bureauofschmeng.com> wrote in message
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> Here on fast seduction, Ray Gordon often states that techniques become
> obselete and media exposure makes them useless. This is not true. Reality
> has shown that the basics are just that -basics that don't change. I have
> used them for years with great success. I went from AFC to having anything
> I want. Nobody I know has noticed any changes since the media appearance
> of game or Mystery's show.
>
> This is fact. Basic seduction techniqe is effective. It is based on human
> nature and psychology. Any man who puts effort into learning and changing
> will get results.
>
> Ray Gordon is wrong. Ask anyone else with knowledge of the subject and you
> will hear the same thing.
>

Gordo has to lie and claim that existing methods don't work, in order to
prop up the premise that his stuff will eventually work.
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Re: The Ray Gordon Fallacy         


Author: corky
Date: Jul 7, 2008 21:29

"Odious" cox.net.nospam> wrote in message
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>
> "corky" bureauofschmeng.com> wrote in message
> news:lbBck.52$Y51.6@newsfe06.lga...
>> Here on fast seduction, Ray Gordon often states that techniques become
>> obselete and media exposure makes them useless. This is not true. Reality
>> has shown that the basics are just that -basics that don't change. I have
>> used them for years with great success. I went from AFC to having
>> anything I want. Nobody I know has noticed any changes since the media
>> appearance of game or Mystery's show.
>>
>> This is fact. Basic seduction techniqe is effective. It is based on human
>> nature and psychology. Any man who puts effort into learning and changing
>> will get results.
>>
>> Ray Gordon is wrong. Ask anyone else with knowledge of the subject and
>> you will hear the same thing.
>>
> ...
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Re: The Ray Gordon Fallacy         


Author: Odious
Date: Jul 7, 2008 21:44

"corky" bureauofschmeng.com> wrote in message
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>>
> Well, since he craves credit for things, we might as well call this
> "Gordon's Fallacy" and add it to PUA terminology.
>

Gordon's Fallacy: The act of rationalizing negative behaviors by blaming
outside forces and elaborate conspiracies for the consequences of one's own
inaccurate assumptions and unrealistic expectations.
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Re: The Ray Gordon Fallacy         


Author: George Orwell
Date: Jul 8, 2008 00:58

In article
"Odious" cox.net.nospam> wrote:
>
>
> "corky" bureauofschmeng.com> wrote in message
> news:v2Cck.52$H35.41@newsfe05.lga...
>>>
>> Well, since he craves credit for things, we might as well call this
>> "Gordon's Fallacy" and add it to PUA terminology.
>>
>
> Gordon's Fallacy: The act of rationalizing negative behaviors by blaming
> outside forces and elaborate conspiracies for the consequences of one's own
> inaccurate assumptions and unrealistic expectations.

..which is basically synonymous with NPD.

Further information can be found in the following links:

http://www.levymd.com/2007/03/shrink_in_the_c.html
Note the section on paranoid litigants, as pertaining to
Narcissistic Peronsality Disorder.
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Re: The Ray Gordon Fallacy         


Author: Frisco Del Rosario
Date: Jul 8, 2008 01:55

In article <0a0aae5c07d339696a6564c28d677a89@mixmaster.it>,
George Orwell wrote:
> http://www.levymd.com/2007/03/shrink_in_the_c.html
> Note the section on paranoid litigants, as pertaining to Narcissistic Personality Disorder.

Wow. What would Gordon Roy say about that piece?
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Re: The Ray Gordon Fallacy         


Author: ZFORCE
Date: Jul 8, 2008 02:08

"Frisco Del Rosario" appleisp.netNO> wrote in message
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> In article <0a0aae5c07d339696a6564c28d677a89@mixmaster.it>,
> George Orwell wrote:
>
>> http://www.levymd.com/2007/03/shrink_in_the_c.html
>> Note the section on paranoid litigants, as pertaining to Narcissistic
>> Personality Disorder.
>
> Wow. What would Gordon Roy say about that piece?

That the seduction mafia wrote it to discredit his seduction gambling chess
business and anyone who says otherwise will get sued for 10 billion dollars.
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Re: The Ray Gordon Fallacy         


Date: Jul 8, 2008 04:48

>Gordon's Fallacy: The act of rationalizing negative behaviors by blaming
>outside forces and elaborate conspiracies for the consequences of one's own
>inaccurate assumptions and unrealistic expectations.

Great, may I had an important item:
>Gordon's Fallacy: The act of rationalizing negative behaviors by blaming
>outside forces and elaborate conspiracies for the consequences of one's own
>inaccurate assumptions, unrealistic expectations and "Inexcusable Failures".

After all, a Judge said that.

JJTj

..U gonna go there! ?"

Fuz 'da Bun: "..I'm gonna spill me some beans ! : "

ROUND 'em UP !!

Well we're ASF shilling..
Big Bad RICO villains
And we scam everyone, ya know
(that sounds like us ? )
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Re: The Ray Gordon Fallacy         


Date: Jul 8, 2008 04:54

>"Frisco Del Rosario" appleisp.netNO> wrote in message
>news:frisco-19F25A.01554408072008@news.sf.sbcglobal.net...
>> In article <0a0aae5c07d339696a6564c28d677a89@mixmaster.it>,
>> George Orwell wrote:
>>> http://www.levymd.com/2007/03/shrink_in_the_c.html
>>> Note the section on paranoid litigants, as pertaining to Narcissistic
>>> Personality Disorder.
>> Wow. What would Gordon Roy say about that piece?
>That the seduction mafia wrote it to discredit his seduction gambling chess
>business and anyone who says otherwise will get sued for 10 billion dollars.

And do not forget, he wanted that money paid off in:

"..hot, young women.."

Folks think this group has been grp-ie's litter box, look at
his decade of posts in alt.romance, alt.hypno, and alt.law.etc etc etc.

There is a reason why grp-ie is afraid of many people here,
in other groups, and even off line, why he won't EVER sue them:

His own big mouth will bury him so fast he won't see it coming.

I for one can't wait to see his head spin.

JJTj
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Re: The Ray Gordon Fallacy         


Author: Anonymous Remailer
Date: Jul 8, 2008 08:31

It describes most of his adult life.

Another useful quote, from the Psychology Today article, is:

"To get the attention he craves, he may try to create
crises that return the focus to him."

That describes a good part of his life on Usenet. He is constantly
baiting people, then leaps into victim mode when people respond
accordingly and plays it up to no end.

He's emotionally dependent on Usenet, and realizes this at some level
though he'd never admit it. He's tried to leave it several times in the
past, each time making a big deal about how he was "leaving forever".
But he only lasted a few days in each case. Usenet and the
courts are two of the very few places where he can get the attention
he craves, at least initially in regard to the courts. Neither of these
forums were designed for his kind of abuse.
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