The British author Graham Masterton - perhaps more widely known nowadays
for writing horror fiction - has written and published a number of
"seduction and sex" guidebooks.

The earliest of these - entitled "How To Be The Perfect Lover" first
appeared in 1975, went through several printings, and was sold in
mainstream bookshops.

In it, the author takes a position that I would summarize as:
"to get the sort of women he really wants, a man should improve himself
in a number of ways"

Masterton addresses such matters as:

* improving one's diet
* taking more exercise
* wearing a better quality of clothing
* improving one's general ability to converse
* being open to learning new things

My dad apparently had a product out in the 1940s (!!) that called itself a
"college course on getting girls" or something like that.

--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru

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"Ray Gordon, Troll" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
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Glad to know that you knew who he was.......

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On Mar 20, 11:15�am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:

"Apparently"??

"in the 1940s"??

"or something like that"??

More unsubstantiated and unverified claims from the biggest mouth with
NOTHING to say in Usenet history.

And how'd that work out for him in his relationship with your dearly
departed mommy?

"Ray Gordon" - who insists on misrepresenting himself as "creator of the
pivot" - despite the fact that his own words prove otherwise - wrote:

Oh, so you can see my postings after all....
You just choose to avoid the questions you cannot answer or deflect ?
But, surely that would be "non-alpha behavior" ?

But to return to your claim:

If you say so.

Would you care to provide any evidence for this claim ?

Given your track record for repeatedly making spurious claims without
evidence, forgive me if I expect this to be just the latest on the list.

I look forward to seeing evidence that this material actually exists...
despite my expectations to the contrary.

For, although Masterton's original 1975 work is now out of print, it can
be found being sold by traders via Amazon Marketplace ( in addition to
appearing sometimes at second-hand bookstores and on eBay. )

On Mar 20, 7:15 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:

Let's see. If we assume the material had any value (and it actually
existed), then we could assume that it formed at least a base for his
getting women, perhaps expanded or extended through experience, before
meeting your mother. What do we get if we follow the path?

Your loser dad manages to get your dysfunctional mother. They
successfully breed (a main goal of animals) and produce a piece of
human waste. That piece of waste absorbs all they have to teach about
life and, following the cycle, produces a book on getting women. Like
your fathers book, and probably for the same reasons, your book(s)
fail.

There are a lot of paths through life. Some of them get you where you
want to go, some take you other places, but failure is always a rut.

So then you didn't create your schtick. You ripped off your father's
idea and repackaged it. I see. Congrats.

While I know little of Parker's dad, his mother watched and cheered
(according to Parker himself..how else would we know) while some
loser child beater beat on grp-ie. Maybe she knew something we don't.

*IF* his dad produced some 'seduction' advice, this is what resulted.

I won't speak ill of the dead, but grp-ie seems to need to, so I'll comment
on his posts..YEARS of them..stating his father had major problems, abuse
wise, and his mother enjoyed grp-ie getting his ass kicked by her BF of
the moment..seems there were many. AGAIN, no way would Usenet history
show this, if not for Ray Gordon/Gorden Roy Parker/"..i was jesus.."
telling the world this. And..Fuz's PI found A LOT MORE about his parents.

..and little of it was pretty. Notice his siblings avoid/ignore him?

grp-ie's NYC days are a open book to Fuz, and that is why grp-ie fears him.

BTW, grp-ie..you child molesting faggot.. How's the suicide thing going?

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:KuudnVJqE7YM4n_anZ2dnUVZ_qainZ2d@pghconnect.com...

Never heard of it. Did your father started yelling "GAME OVER" when seeing
the likes of Elvis Presley, James Dean and Rock Hudson?

in article KuudnVJqE7YM4n_anZ2dnUVZ_qainZ2d@pghconnect.com, Ray Gordon,
creator of the "pivot" at ray@cybersheet.com wrote on 3/20/08 11:15 AM:

Assertion is not evidence.

Since you're such a fan of copyright dates, what was the copyright date on
that?