>> So far, the dancers are right: men are PATHETIC LOSER CHUMPS who feed
>> money
>> to women in exchange for NOTHING.

>
> No argument there, but...

>

>> They think if one man wises up, another will be there to take his place
>> and
>> fork over the money, and THEY ARE RIGHT.

>

>> It is these men -- the CHUMPS -- who are the true enemy of the PUA. The
>> men
>> who price ALL men out of the market by spending even when doing so doesn't
>> improve their odds of getting laid one iota. Strip clubs are the epitome
>> of
>> this mass gender-betrayal.

>>>Actually, it's these men and the
>>>massive sex fantasy industry
>>>they feed who are the biggest
>>>friend to the PUA.

>
> Only inasmuch as the PUA doesn't help the men wise up, which is why the
> "seduction community" is so commercialized. Why should a PUA help create
> competition without being well-compensated?
>
> To the extent that the PUA is a parasite who requires an AFC host, you are
> correct.
>

>>One hot stripper can
>> occupy the time, wallet and
>>sexual fantasy life of tens (or
>>even hundreds) of men who
>>would otherwise be pursuing real
>>women for real relationships.

>
> And the women would be available for those because CHUMPS wouldn't be
> providing for them without getting laid.
>

>>These men are effectively off the
>>market for competing
>>for women who aren't sex
>>workers - their minds and
>>priorities are elsewhere.

>
> This is offset by the hotties who don't have to put out to get paid.
>

>>The
>>advent of freely available,
>>pervasive internet
>>pornography has even furthered
>>this phenomenon. Even college
>>age hotties nowadays complain
>>that their own boyfriends ignore
>>them in favor of porn, strippers
>>and other fantasy material.

>
> Not the hotties...ugly women maybe. Or the complaints are just fishing for
> attention.
>

>>All one has to
>>observe to confirm this is the
>>reality that non-stripper regular
>>chicks are out there taking "pole
>>dancing" classes just so guys will
>>pay attention to them!

>
> Only certain guys, and again, the hottie whose bills are paid without her
> having to put out for the money (or do real work) is costing money to the
> chumps who are paying their bills.
>
> Without the chump, the whole equation changes.
>

>>>If the target for the seduction is
>>>NOT a sex worker, the PUA is
>>>at an advantage because of the
>>>reduced competition,

>
> Hardly, as lots of jobs give "hired guns" the same economic freedom, and
> these days, some hot women can sit at home on cam and make six figures.
>

>>>and even
>>>if the target for the seduction is
>>>the stripper herself (which it
>>>shouldn't be for many obvious
>>>reasons), the PUA is STILL at
>>>an advantage because he's
>>>not a strip club customer

>
> Strippers are more than on to that gimmick. A flood of "cheap bastards who
> want dates and don't tip" kind of clued them in.
>
> The PUA is not an advantage because many other men are giving her what she
> wants. Any advantage he has comes from things that have nothing to do with
> being a PUA (assets like looks and youth rather than skills).
>

>>and since her financial needs are
>>being met
>>by a bunch of strip club
>>customers, she doesn't have to be
>>as concerned with whether her
>>PUA suitor has money.

>
> Nor does she have to be concerned with fucking him AT ALL. The few "PUAs"
> who meet her ideal might benefit, but they always did, and the rest of the
> guys do not.
>
> --
> Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
>
> Finding Your A-Game:http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
> Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
> The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From
>
> Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf
>
> Here's my Myspace Page: And Pickup Blog (FREE advice)http://www.myspace.com/snodgrasspublishing
>
> Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
> no longer work. Learn the methods the gurus USE with the money they make
> from what they teach.
>
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>
> Beware! VH-1's "The Pickup Artst" was FRAUDULENT. Six of the eight
> contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
> targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
> their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?