On Nov 14, 12:25 am, speeding biz.org> wrote:
> Okay... I'm in a brain farting mood. So here's the second.
>
> Cinemax just had a Star Wars marathon. Had it in the background doing so
> work around the house, so I didn't really pay it much attention. But, I
> did get struck by somethign that I wouldn't have noticed before I started
> with the community. Namely... WHY people think Attack of The Clones was
> bad compared to Empire Strikes Back. And most don't even know why they
> FEEL that way... (and it is feeling.. not rational)
>
> Okay... here's why... and it's TOTALLY seduction related.
>
> In Attack of the Clones, we see the love story of Anakin Skywalker for
> Padme Amadala. Anakin is totally butt ugly in heat for Padme. With her
> kicking bod... it's easy to see why. Not to mention the surrogate mother
> thing. And Padme falls in love with Anakin, right? After all, he laid
> down one of the best pickup lines ever on her. "Are you an angel?" What
> woman wouldn't melt for a guy that COMPLETELY GENUINE says that line. It
> nailed her when he said it. Didn't hurt he was 8 at the time. But, 10
> years later, she was still feeling that.
>
> So, we kick on to him being xompletely nutso over her and she cuts his
> balls off. "Oh Ani, you'll always be that little kid back on Naboo to
> me." Ouch. Then, she bitch slaps him in front of her friends with "Oh
> Ani's not a Jedi, he's just a learner." And all he can do is smile and
> act like having his manhood handed to him didn't hurt at all. Poor pussy
> whipped guy. Total AFC. Couldn't be worse for him. (and we've all be
> there, right?)
>
> Then we see this scene where they're basically alone and he's showing off
> for here by floating a piece of fruit over to her. And she's impressed a
> bit, right? Then the scene in the field where he's showing off riding
> some animal and he falls. She comes running and they laugh and such. And
> the scene where they have a picnic (romantic, right?) and he says the
> line about how he'd make people sit down and agree. And she's totally
> falling for him... right?
>
> Keep this in mind...
>
> Compared to Empire... This "nerd herder" rescues her and starts trying to
> push him around, like a princess is used to doing. Only he's not going
> for it. And he even says... "Nice girl, either I'm going to kill her or
> I'm beginning to like her". Right off the bat, there's whole mental
> shoving match between the Princess and the Pirate. Classic love story
> stuff.
>
> Next, we move into Empire... and the scene in the cave. He grabs to help
> her. Okay... he grabs her in a way any woman knows helping her is not
> what he's really thinking about. And then he carresses her hands. And in
> classic woman thought form, she kicks back with "my hands are dirty." And
> he doesn't let up... asking her if she's scared... and then the DEAD
> ON... "You like me because I'm a scoundrel. There's not enough scoundrels
> in your life." Her attempt to kick back... "I happen to like nice men."
> And the kiss. CLASSIC!!!!
>
> A bit later, we even see him make a little joke about the whole thing,
> just to keep her thinking about it. "You'd like Lando, he's a
> scoundrel." And she sarcastically says "thanks."... but her eyes are
> telling the story. She's falling for Han. Then we cut to the scene where
> Han's going to be frozen. And yet another classic line. "I love you."
> Now, anything he says works. Works just fine. He could have said "Me
> too." or "I love you". But... Han... Han's a player. His reply is one
> I'll bet many guys use now. "I know". Oh how sweet. Just perfect.
>
> Now... why do people think that Empire is better than Clones? Why the new
> trilogy is crap compared to the original? Well... we should all know by
> now. The original makes sense. The Princess falls in love with the Pirate
> because he doesn't put up with her bullshit. The Pirate falls in love
> with the Princess because she has spunk... she gives him shit. There's a
> dynamic between them of push-pull. Tension.
>
> Compared to the new trilogy. The boy falls in love with the girl that
> "mothers" him. And the girl falls for the super-hero that saves her and
> loves her. But, here's the question. And the WHY of why it doesn't work
> for people. Does he LOVE her? Does she LOVE him? Why? There's no...
> ATTRACTION. He has LUST for her. She's smokin hot and he feels AFFECTION
> for her... because she was nice to him. He's a superpowered Jedi and he's
> her protector. So, she feels AFFECTION for him. But, with all that...
> there's no ATTRACTION.
>
> And, in watching the movie... we can all FEEL it. There's no ATTRACTION
> in Clones. There's a "love" of sorts. But, of course it's doomed to fail.
> We, as the movie watchers... are left to wonder... why would Anakin
> really love this gal that doesn't respect him. And why would Padme really
> love Anakin when she can't respect him. It's just not as enjoyable to see
> their "love" affair as it is to watch Han get called a "scruff looking
> nerf herder" or hear Han tell Leia that there's no time to "discuss this
> in a committee".
>
> New Star Wars versus Classic. Both are love stories. The Classic is a
> love story borne of ATTRACTION. The love that a PUA desires and creates.
> The New is a love story borne of AFFECTION. The love an AFC stumbles into
> or settles for. And so... is there any question as to WHY we would FEEL
> more connection and more fondness for the ATTRACTION love than the
> AFFECTION love. One love is real. The other love is forced.
>
> If there is EVER an argument for why we should want to learn how to be a
> player.. this is it.
>
> --
> She wants to meet a man and God dammit! I am a man! == Scruff
awesome!
thats so well put, Han Solo is the dude, while Anakin is a whiney
little pussy. getting burnt to a overdone fajita was the best thing
that could have ever happened to him. i bet he had a whole army of
fancy women once he donned the black suit and shut his fucking whiney
mouth.
i watched Empire the other day for must be the 3rd time i think, and
you're right about the development of attraction, its so much more
'real' - more zesty and dramatic. when you watch clones your thinking
"as if, why the fuck would she like him? blatantly its only because Obi
Wan is so straight edge thats she's going for 'mini-Obi-Wan' instead.
yeah, Anakin is a bit of a bad boy, a has some character, arrogance and
has some cool powers, but everytime he opens his mouth, you wish Yoda
would bitch slap him down.
Scruff.