Re: Self-control, not condoms, is best HIV preventer
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Group: alt.seduction.fast · Group Profile
Author: Gwen
Date: Jul 26, 2008 08:52

On Jul 26, 8:42 am, mizlee aol.com> wrote:
> On Jul 25, 8:16�pm, "g...@rock.com" rock.com> wrote:
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>> On Jul 23, 9:41�pm, "J" live.com> wrote:
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>>> Self-control, not condoms, is best HIV preventer, South African cardinal
>>> says
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>>> Sydney, Jul 17, 2008 / 04:18 am (CNA).- Cardinal Wilifrid Fox Napier, the
>>> Archbishop of Durban, South Africa, told an Australian news program that a
>>> change in Catholic teaching on condoms would not change the rate of HIV
>>> infection in Africa. Rather, he argued, positive change would result from
>>> trusting people to take control of their lives.
>>> "You expect that because people are hearing from bishops, `You must use a
>>> condom', that they will do what the bishops say? the cardinal asked his
>>> interviewer.
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>>> "We have already been preaching all our lives, don't have sex outside of
>>> marriage," Cardinal Napier told the SBS Dateline program, according to the
>>> Australian Associated Press.
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>>> The cardinal, who is visiting Sydney for World Youth Day, said South Africa
>>> has the highest rate of condom distribution, but still has one of the
>>> highest HIV infection rates in the world.
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>>> He cited the Uganda program against HIV infection as a successful model.
>>> There, he said, the HIV prevalence rate was reduced from 29 to 6 percent in
>>> ten years with a program that promoted abstinence for unmarried Ugandans and
>>> monogamy for couples. The program also issued condoms only to married
>>> people.
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>>> Cardinal Napier said the Church trusted in people's ability to control their
>>> own lives.
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>>> "At the moment, if you go on a policy of condom distribution as the only
>>> solution to HIV and AIDS, you are telling people that they cannot take
>>> control of their own lives," he said.
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>>> "And, therefore, I think you are doing them an injustice by saying: `You are
>>> so stupid. Even though this disease is a killer, you cannot take control of
>>> your own lives'."
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>>> --
>>> J Young
>>> Jvisi...@live.com
>>> Owner of 'LC'
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>> To have safe sex, all men should use condoms and the pull out method
>> concurrently until they are sure the woman is on the pill. �They
>> should then use the pill and condoms, until they get an HIV test with
>> their partner. �They could then use the pill and the pull-out method.
>> Using 2 forms of birth control reduces the risk of pregnancy from 1 in
>> 3.7 to 1 in 25 for the pull out method, and 1 in 6.7 to 1 in 50 for
>> condoms to 1 in 1,983 to 1 in 125,000 for Pull-Out & Condoms, and 1 in
>> 6,666 �to 1 in 1,665,000 for the Pill and Condoms, and �1 in 3,700 to
>> 1 in 832,500 for Pull-Out & The Pill.
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>> However there is a greater risk of contracting HPV without a condom.
>> Condoms reduce the risk of HPV by 70%%. �HPV causes cervical cancer and
>> given the seriousness of the disease may actually be a greater risk
>> for heterosexual women than HIV. �The vaccine Gardasil protects
>> against 70%% of cervical cancers by blocking HPV 16 and 18. �Pap smears
>> can protect women from the remaining cases. �There may be a great risk
>> of oral cancer from oral sex. �Given that most cases of HIV are in
>> homosexuals, the risk of oral cancer from HPV16 may actually be a
>> greater risk for heterosexuals than HIV. �Most all cases of oral
>> cancer determined to have been caused by HPV have been determined to
>> have been caused by HPV16. �Thus Gardasil potentially protects against
>> all HPV related oral cancer.
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>> In most people the body clears the HPV virus in 2-5 years.
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>> Gardasil also protects against 90%% of genital warts and should be
>> approved in men for that reason alone.
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>> A condom reduces the risk of HIV by 90%%. �A recent test reduces the
>> risk by even less. �An over the counter test similar to a pregnancy
>> test would do far more to stop the transmission of HIV than preaching
>> abstinence or condom use.
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>> Keeping semen out of any orifices, vaginal and oral, helps protect
>> against HIV, especially if there are any cuts in the mouth from braces
>> or other reasons.
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>> Keeping semen out of the vagina obviously helps protect against
>> pregnancy. �When used in concurrence with another form of birth
>> control, the chance of pregnancy is virtually nill.
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>> Gay men especially should wear condoms and avoid semen in the ass.
>> The ass is not a sexual organ and bleeds easier making it more
>> dangerous for the top and bottom. �Gays and injection drug users
>> account for approximately 75%% of the new cases of HIV each year.
>> Heterosexuals account for only 10%% (mostly women), and my guess is
>> that most of these probably didn't wear condoms. � There are 40,000
>> new cases of HIV in the U.S. each year total. �According to Wikipedia
>> there are 34,000 new cases of oral cancer each year. �It requires more
>> analysis on my part, but preliminary research of studies suggests that
>> 8,500-20,000 of these cases might be due to HPV. �Cancer is probably
>> as serious an illness for most people as HIV, thus the risk of oral
>> cancer may be greater for heterosexuals than the risk of HIV, of which
>> only 2,800-7,800 heterosexual males, and 9,000 heterosexual females,
>> and of those 952-1,714 heterosexual white male, and 1,800 heterosexual
>> white female contract each year. �The disease effects minorities and
>> homosexuals and intravenous drugs users more greatly. �("7,800" and
>> "1,714" number includes "other" unspecified methods of transmission).
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>> New England Journal of Medicine - John Hopkins Oral Cancer HPV Study:http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/356/19/1944
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>>http://www.oralcancerfoundation.org/ocfnews/news.asp-says 1 in 4
>> cases of oral cancer were found due to HPV, this would correspond to
>> the 8,500 number.
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>> 50%% of those with oral cancer die within five years.- Hide quoted text -
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> While we are on the subject of abstinence - let's talk about ----
> TEXAS!
> Our fabulous Bush administration, which, naturally, pushes (and pays
> for, with YOUR tax dollars), abstinence only programs in the public
> schools, spends more money in Texas than in any other state.  Now
> think hard, little buddies:  Which state in this glorious country of
> ours has the highest teen pregnancy rate?- Hide quoted text -
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Or maybe it Wasgington D.C. or now it's Texas. Nevertheless, this
country has a major problem, some states are more progress than most.
The laggards need to get a clue and catch up.
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