yet has posted no names and specific proof at all.
Ray Gordon, please answer:
How you know these things.
Who you are accusing.
What happened.
Who it happened to.
Where it happened.
When it happened.

Without anything concrete, your words are useless speculation. Or lies.
Just making caims over and over is not proof. It is NOTHING.

He MONITORS this group as if he were PAID to do so. He addresses every
"talking point" that a guru doesn't want to go unchallenged.

He acts like this is his JOB, and wonders why people might think he's a
SHILL.

Get real.

Notice also he doesn't scrutinize my competition whatsoever. That's because
he's paid not to. Directive 4 and all that.

Don't be fooled.

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On Jun 27, 8:05 pm, "Ray Gordon"cybersheet.com> wrote:

Don't worry, we're not.

No fr00t l00p with an agenda is going to fool anyone with
unsubstantiated rumors, gossip and flat-out falsehoods.

But thanks for worrying about us.

Now go fuck yourself.

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 18:25:10 -0500, "corky"
bureauofschmeng.com> wrote:

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:85KdnUtW55XPHfjVnZ2dnUVZ_uLinZ2d@pghconnect.com...

Ray, I am a bored programmer and like Usenet. This is a public forum and I
have been here for several years. I don't think you have to be a paid shill
to be on usenet.
Still, I asked you to back up your latest flotilla of accusations about
unnamed 'gurus'.

I am asking you to get real and back up your accusations.

newzloon whined:

I'm NOT fooled... not by gordy roy parker.