"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:Q5WdnTFmnvlLuArVnZ2dnUVZ_qninZ2d@pghconnect.com...

Oh man... this is going to be bad for gordo.

"105. Several hours after Mrs. Marcos called Plaintiff, Mr. Trunk posted a
message to
ASF in which he claimed that Plaintiff had "harassed" Mrs. Marcos (a lie,
likely not originated
by Mrs. Marcos), and that he could wind up at "Gitmo" because she was in the
military.

106. The only way Mr. Trunk could have known about the conversation was
through
Mrs. Marcos telling her son, who told him. This establishes a clear
conspiratorial link between
Mr. Marcos, Mr. Trunk, and, by extension, Defendant Mystery and Ross
Jeffries, who was
seeking to gain favor with Defendant Mystery by having "his people" (Trunk)
target Plaintiff."

So would this be perjury? Since I have no clue who Mrs. Marcos is...

I assume gordo is referring to this post I made....

__________________________________________
From: "Odious" cox.net.nospam>
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: How stupid can gordita be....
Date: Sat, 5 Aug 2006 15:17:57 -0700

A guy who publicly applauded Al Qaeda's attack on the world trade center and
cheered the thousands of dead Americans, would have to be really really
stupid to then go and start threatening women who are active duty in the
military.

And to do so with such a shity firewall on his mommy's computer.

Really really dumb.

Does Penny have any idea what you've gotten her into?
Maybe she should be notified before you land her in Gitmo?
__________________________________________

Gordo just swore to the court that "Mr. Trunk posted a message to ASF in
which he claimed that Plaintiff had "harassed" Mrs. Marcos (a lie, likely
not originated by Mrs. Marcos), and that he could wind up at "Gitmo" because
she was in the military."

Not only did I not mention any Mrs. Marcos.... I clearly said, ."Maybe she
[Ray's Mom] should be notified before you land her in Gitmo?"

But here's the really tragic part for gordo.... I was referring to a woman
I'd chatted with online, who was active duty military, and who gordo had
threatened and harassed. We were chatting, and the subject of weirdoes on
AOL came up and she started telling me about this kook who tried to get her
into some dom and sub role playing routine and when she wasn't into his
weird demands, he flipped out and started threatening to fuck with her life,
get her fired, get her kids taken away etc. I said, damn that sounds like
someone I know... and jokingly said, his name wasn't ray gordon was it.
YES! How do you know him.... then she starts thinking I am gordon, because
apparently he'd used several screen names to contact her after she tried
blocking him.

Once I explained how I knew of Gordo... she told me all about their
interaction, and it was the same story we've heard about gordo over and over
again.

So I dropped that little active military comment about her, not whoever Mrs.
Marcos is.

But apparently gordo was harassing so many women in so many ways, he wasn't
sure who the fuck I was referring to.

But that sure didn't stop him from making an assumption then swearing under
penalty of perjury it was factual.

But it gets worse for poor gordo....

"107. In April 2007, at the direction of Defendant Mystery, Ross Jeffries
and Mr.
Trunk directed a third party, "Wintermute" (a former UPenn student who had
previously
threatened Plaintiff in 2001) to mail a letter from Illinois (where
Wintermute was) to Plaintiff's
mother, threatening her with potential legal consequences if she continued
to allow Plaintiff to
live with her, and provided her internet access."

Directed? Gordo is claiming that Ross, Mystery, and I collectivly
instructed Wintermute to send that letter.... LOL!!!!

And why'd you cut out your 9-11-01 comments from the letter, gordo?

"109. At the time this directly threatening letter (legal consequences) was
mailed to Plaintiff's mother,"

Um, gordo, how many "directly threatening letter (legal consequences)" have
you send to my father, AFTER having been instructed to limit any
communication to proper legal channels?

"110. The reference to "when she passes on" regarding his mother, led
Plaintiff to post
a message to ASF shortly thereafter stating that his mother had been
harassed by an offline letter
that contained what could easily have been construed as a death threat."

Again, by whom? The "passes on" comment falls far short of even your own
publicly stated standard for what you believe constitutes a threat.

"<-----------Be specific as to which threats. USENET is archived. Go
ahead,
try to find a threat, please. According to the FBI, a threat has to be a
specific statement of intent to commit a specific harm against a specific
individual. WORDING IS VERY IMPORTANT. "

So not only are you knowingly misrepresenting facts, but doing so having
previously publicly demonstrated that you're aware of the standard for what
constitutes a threat. You can't feign ignorance on this one gordo....

" In response to this allegation, Mr. Trunk posted a message that stated
that he had seen the letter sent to Plaintiff's
mother, and then described its contents."

That would be this post here....

__________________________________________________________
From: "Odious" cox.net.nospam>
Newsgroups: alt.seduction.fast
Subject: So I've seen the "Death Threat" now...
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2007 08:11:54 -0700

And I understand why gordo won't post it.... because there's no death threat
at all.

In fact there's nothing in the letter even close to an implication of a
threat... other than the threats ray has made that are quoted in the letter
for his mother to see. However those are clearly marked as quotes from
gordo, not statements being made in the letter by the author. The only
statement in the letter even mentioning death is a statement that gordo's
mom should consider what gordo will do for support after she's gone, and no
longer around to care for him. If gordo took this letter to the police and
said it was a death threat, they'd laugh him out of the station. So it is
no wonder he has to come to ASF to scream and cry and make threats.

Again it is clear that gordo is a desperate liar, trying to intimidate
people and threaten people to keep them from informing his mother about his
actions, and the liability in to which he is placing her.

And gordo.... what are you going to do for support when your mother is no
longer around to take care of you?
________________________________________________________

Gordo apparently forgot to read the subject line.... "Subject: So I've seen
the "Death Threat" now..."

Gordo claims he's mailed a death threat... many posters say prove it, post
quotes, or scan it... myself included.

Gordo refuses to be specific about what he claims was a death threat.

Then several of the folks who were asking for Gordo to quote this supposed
threat, get e-mails containing an alleged copy of this letter, then post
about it on ASF. Myself included.... which is why I clearly stated, that I
could comment on the content, NOW that I'd seen it.

Yet somehow to gordo this is proof I wrote it?

" Another individual working in concert with Mr. Trunk,
John J. Tashjian, Jr. of Massachusetts (another paid-poster/shill), then
posted the entire contents
of the letter. Plaintiff had never revealed the contents of the letter to
anyone.

111. Plaintiff avers, upon information and belief, that Defendant Mystery
and Ross
Jeffries authorized the letter, Mr. Trunk composed it, and Wintermute mailed
it, at Mr. Trunk's
direction."

What ifnormation gordo? Your entire pleading is assumptive and not only
unsupported by the facts but directly contradicted by the facts.

"120. Mr. Trunk (OdiousX) has received pecuniary compensation from
Defendants
Mystery/VAC in the form of access to their "inner circle" and waiver of any
fees for materials or
coaching, plus other unspecified compensation which will be shown at trial.
Plaintiff therefore
alleges a respondeat-superior relationship between Defendants Odious and
Mystery."

LOL!!!!!

What gordo doesn't seem to grasp in his little wet dream is that there is no
connection to discover... the "plus other unspecified compensation which
will be shown at trial." he is so sure he can uncover with discovery, isn't
there.