"Italian Stallion" wrote in message
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FWIW, I have found the things I've learned about pickup over the last couple
of years to be quite damaging.

I've increased my confidence *in some ways* and I've attracted more women
*of certain types*. I don't complain about this.

But overall it's been very dispiriting, and didn't achieve what I wanted
from it. Seems like the motivations of the other people studying PUA theory
are totally different to mine, and I've not yet found a method that really
speaks to me.

And it shattered a lot of my faith in human nature by making everything so
scientific.

"Sir Benjamin Nunn" depro.co.uk> wrote in
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"Sir Benjamin Nunn" depro.co.uk> wrote in
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I always love it when someone claims that something that does work for
others but does not work for him is rubbish.

Of such absolutes is a gordy loser made.

--
Krustavus Teofilus Olfard

Ok, now we are aware about how this mating stuff functions. We have taken
the red pill.

Do you like it ? Do you find that sentimental commitment has losen
attractiveness ?
I mean: Before knowing this, when you was fond of someone, you said : "I
love you". Now you know that your choice and her choice are a mere value
selection. Simply, everyone of us has a reproductive and survival value by
wich we are chosen and we choose. Is it the same thing to say "I love you"
now ? Do you feel the same ? I wanna be clear, so before answering please
continue reading.

There was a good experiment reported by Ridley[*]. The assortative mating
pattern experiment, as they call it. They gave each of thirty students a
numbered card to stick on their foreheads, from 1 to...

wow interesting topic :)

One thing that has definately changed in me, is that i feel that i can't get
as emotionally close to a girl. I've said to myself "always be willing to
walk away" so many times that now i feel i can't get fully close to a girl,
for the fear that i won't be able to walk away if need be. So there's always
that distance between us.

Is it possible to be in a functional long term relationship with a girl
using the game? Or is the game a way to start out on the right foot where
you're not just gonna be the woman's bitch?

-Matt

"Italian Stallion" wrote in message
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It is not just about making your number APPEAR higher, it is also about
actually making your number BE higher. It is about just showing your
number to more people, so that you will meet more people who like it.
It is about giving women an experience that will make them better for
experiencing it. It is about becoming a better man and a better human.
It is about a lot of things.

In any case the whole idea of a REAL number is confused -
attractiveness can only be measured by how many people feel attracted.
It is not just a property that YOU have in isolation - your
attractiveness is just as much a property of other people. There is no
REAL number.

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"Mathias" psychoskank.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Well, no, because now you have the skills to get a wider range of girls with
less effort than before. What are the chances that you'd be emotionally
close to many of them?

You're casting a wider net, which means that you'll land a higher percentage
of inappropriate girls, whereas before you may have concentrated your
efforts on the few you really connected with.

IMHO Jeffries is completely wrong on this (in his original writings, his
latest slant is a bit different). There *are* such things as love,
soulmates, real emotions, and it's not just a numbers game when this stuff
starts to matter to you.

Many PUAs are simply doing the equivalent of fucking lots of mid-to-high-end
prostitutes, but without paying. If that's what you want to achieve, then
fine, but it's not the solution to life's problems.

"Sir Benjamin Nunn" depro.co.uk> writes:

You didn't understand when he said "There is no such THING as love"

Love isn't a THING, its a process, which involves real emotions.

--

The guy who fails at the game is the one who
goes out looking for women to make him
feel good about himself.

The guy who succeeds at the game is the one
who goes out and makes other people feel good
about themselves. - Style

"Sir Benjamin Nunn" depro.co.uk> writes: