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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Jan 19, 2008 08:29
It's already happening, as men are learning not to feed the hired hotties.
Income for hired guns is down, and more women want to be them. The market
is crashing.
--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy
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contestants were actors, and they used PAID TARGETS in the club. The paid
targets got mad when VH-1 said "there are no actors in this club" and ruined
their prromised acting credit. What else has Mystery lied about?
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Author: dmandman Date: Jan 19, 2008 09:37
On Jan 20, 5:29 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:> It's already happening, as men are learning not to feed the hired hotties.
>
> Income for hired guns is down, and more women want to be them. The market
> is crashing.
>
why should I care if that is true or not, I'm not a hired gun. I'm not
even female
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Author: Seeker1Seeker1 Date: Jan 20, 2008 21:44
Alex wrote:
> On Jan 19, 11:52 pm, FoxHound pickupartiste.org> wrote:>> I am a wealthy client of Ray and have been coached by Ray to learn rich
>> man PUA and it works GREAT..... Game might be over for you guys who
>> can't afford quality coaching by this genius,........but I can.......and I
>> am literally swimming in trim.......that I could only dream
>> of......before.....and....best 10 grand I ever spent......no....Ray did not ask me to
>> write this.........I am a satisfied client and have recommended Ray to
>> all my millionaire buds........don't laugh at what you don't
>> understand........
>
> Are you a new troll or are you the same satirical one from years past?
Curiously, I was thinking the same thing.
The "testimonial" post is so blatantly false,
it rated as "Baby Milk Factory" on my falseness meter.
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Author: Seeker1Seeker1 Date: Jan 20, 2008 21:44
"Ray Gordon" wrote:
> Um, THEY are wealthy. They never said they paid me a lot.
Actually, the post *claims* to have given you "10 grand".
Your previous postings show that you believe that amount to be "a lot".
( Arguably any amount is "a lot" if it is frittered away... )
> Assuming they used my books, they spent $19.95 tops or got the books free
> with another purchase.
>
> I also teach guys directly sometimes, but I don't charge.
Now *that* I have great difficulty believing.
For a number of reasons - including the wording of your own postings,
over several years.
You claim to be the world's greatest expert on a subject.
Yet you claim you "don't charge" for giving tuition on that subject ?
While filing lawsuits *as a pauper* - indicating that you need money ?
And then have the nerve to claim that *other people* have undermined
your income ?
Methinks there are several untruths there, Mr Parker.
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Author: An Old FriendAn Old Friend Date: Jan 21, 2008 05:19
In article <5cqdnVdDnJ2YCg7anZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@ pghconnect.com>,
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" cybersheet.com> wrote:
> Um, THEY are wealthy. They never said they paid me a lot.
>
> Assuming they used my books, they spent $19.95 tops or got the books
> free with another purchase.
So you are denying then that this person paid you $10,000 for seduction
advice? At one time you DID advertise that amount.
If the email claiming to have paid for your advice is true, then the
tax records you presumably submitted as evidence of your pauper status
are inaccurate.
Tax fraud is a pretty serious offense if I recall correctly.
> I also teach guys directly sometimes, but I don't charge.
At one time you did charge, or at least you advertised here that you
charged. Are you finally admitting to making false advertising claims?
> I do not know who posted those things (don't track customer info
> even, for privacy),
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Author: AlexAlex Date: Jan 21, 2008 14:44
That Gordon has ZERO credibility doesn't give this new troll any.
Perhaps one day, he'll reach the satirical level of his predecessor,
what was his name? Foxhunter Five?
Until the new troll can give convincing evidence he's paid Gordon a
dime, I'm withholding judgment.
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Author: fakeobamafakeobama Date: Jan 21, 2008 16:01
On Jan 20, 11:31 am, dman mytrashmail.com> wrote:> I'm pretty sure one of the earlier posts mentioned him paying the 10k
>
Not really. It's obliquely worded, like many of Ray's posts, so it's
ot really laying claim to or saying anything substantive, e.g., all of
these things could be Gorgon talking about himself (one can be one's
own client), "10 grand" could be referring to a Nestle® candy bar by
that name, "I recommend... to all my millionaire buds" (he might have
no millionaire buds), etc. It's either a troll post or a sock-puppet.
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