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Author: E.C. SmithE.C. Smith Date: Aug 20, 2008 03:01
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Author: OdiousOdious Date: Aug 23, 2008 10:17
"E.C. Smith" way.com> wrote in message
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And South African political systems were never influenced by white
imperialists, nor by diamond interests.
And we all know that white run nations have never had political strife nor
wars, right?
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Author: OdiousOdious Date: Aug 23, 2008 10:44
"EC Smith" way.com> wrote in message
news:rhnpk.8211$6s4.7798@newsfe14.ams2...> "Odious" cox.net.nospam> wrote>>
>> "EC Smith" way.com> wrote in message
>> news:t7ipk.1162$N93.660@newsfe25.ams2...>>> "Odious" cox.net.nospam> wrote>>>>
>>>> Too bad for him, the others in question don't think either. All they
>>>> do is work backwards from their conclusion trying to rationalize and
>>>> justify their racist fear and ignorance.
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>>> The government doesn't deny there's a black/white educational
>>> achievement gap does it?
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>> The fact that different groups from different social, economic, and
>> educational backgrounds, test differently, is not in question.
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>> What is in question, is your premise that racial genetics are the causal ...
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Author: OdiousOdious Date: Aug 23, 2008 10:52
"Krus T. Olfard" odor.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9AFB8DEA7787Dhotstuff@208.49.82.60...> "Odious" cox.net.nospam> wrote in
> news:8Tgpk.38756$yn5.23353@newsfe08.iad:
>>> Too bad for him, the others in question don't think either. All they
>> do is work backwards from their conclusion trying to rationalize and
>> justify their racist fear and ignorance.
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> They take a set of scientific sounding 'facts' and use those facts to
> make an argument and then use that argument to prove their 'facts'.
> Circular reasoning is their stock in trade.
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Author: Dave FoneDave Fone Date: Aug 23, 2008 11:43
"Odious" cox.net.nospam> wrote>
> "E.C. Smith" way.com> wrote in message
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> And South African political systems were never influenced by white
> imperialists, nor by diamond interests.
Of course they were influenced by the Boer and British imperialists. They
built South Africa into a first world economy. That was the legacy of
apartheid the blacks inherited, a fantastic infrastructure. Now we're seeing
the legacy of post-apartheid being established. The exact same thing as what
happened in Zimbabwe. Destruction.
> And we all know that white run nations have never had political strife nor
> wars, right?
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Author: VanceVance Date: Aug 23, 2008 13:10
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>> And we all know that white run nations have never had political strife nor
>> wars, right?
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> To have political strife or wars you need organized governments, something
> you won't find too much of in African history until Whitey got there.
You're not very familiar with the Europe in the Middle Ages are you?
And you probably aren't familiar with how the modern concept of states
is rooted in the Renaissance and the religious reformations and
religious wars of the period.
You also aren't very familiar with the History of Africa, either, are
you? Egypt, Ethopia, Kush are all historical kingdoms of Africa. All
first world entities of their time. Then there were the West African
empires of Ghana, Mali, Songai between the 6th and 15th century.
Africa also produced so called stateless cultures, which is a little
anomolous to the European tradition, but healthy and vibrant cultures
nonetheless as a matter of choice without being chaotic and suffering
from the constant warfare between individual fiefdoms that plagued
Europe.
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Author: Dave FoneDave Fone Date: Aug 23, 2008 14:55
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>>> And we all know that white run nations have never had political strife
>>> nor
>>> wars, right?
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>> To have political strife or wars you need organized governments,
>> something
>> you won't find too much of in African history until Whitey got there.
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> You're not very familiar with the Europe in the Middle Ages are you?
> And you probably aren't familiar with how the modern concept of states
> is rooted in the Renaissance and the religious reformations and
> religious wars of the period.
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> You also aren't very familiar with the History of Africa, either, are
> you? Egypt, Ethopia, Kush are all historical kingdoms of Africa. All ...
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Author: Krus T. OlfardKrus T. Olfard Date: Aug 23, 2008 15:29
"Dave Fone" way.com> wrote in
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Author: VanceVance Date: Aug 23, 2008 20:11
You just can't seem to put together an argument, can you? You're the
one that needs to establish that genetics supports your racist claims
as a matter of valid science. You've failed again.
Vance
On Aug 23, 2:55 pm, "Dave Fone" way.com> wrote:>> ...
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Author: VanceVance Date: Aug 23, 2008 20:11
On Aug 23, 3:29 pm, "Krus T. Olfard" odor.com> wrote:> "Dave Fone" way.com> wrote innews:PH%%rk.22681$AE1.206@newsfe28.ams2:
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