Ok lets look at Odorus by applying his own standards.

Here he makes the following claims:

"....because he can not argue the fact that tom build 3d mind on a
foundation of
SS established by Ross."

" ....3d mind was developed based on taking a piece of the SS program and
trying to repackage it as a stand alone product."

Then Ross himself wrote:

"No problem. I don't like lies and I certainly don't like lies that
are propped up by attempting to reference me.

Odious, what you are saying is demonstrably untrue. I was there as
Tom developed 3D mind and watched
it evolve. It has nothing to do with SS and it is not primarily a
visualization technique.

And I watched Tom and Kim as they developed it; the idea that it draws
on my work is just nonsense."

Yes Ross called Odorous a liar.

This is a clear demonstration that Odorous will say anything, distort
anything and if he believes what he says....is just plain stupid.

On Jan 18, 7:46 am, "Tom Vizzini" essential-skills.com> wrote:

On Jan 18, 12:20 pm, Lori Koonce excite.com> wrote:

Timtom has lots of "sock puppet pals" who mysteriously pop in and out
of the discussion always at the right time to support his actions (he
thinks) and claims. His childishness (as well as that of his alter-
ego, the bi-sexual "hellbwat),pettiness and magical thinking applied
to his interactions are a component of the "3 D" mind. It involves
"releasing the inner brat" (which is one of the "3 dimensions" - I kid
you not!) and other bullshit extrapolations he's ripped off of pop-
psychology concepts from the last 20 or so years.

On Jan 18, 12:20=A0pm, Lori Koonce
excite.com>>>urplelyn...@excite.com> wrote:

Timtom has lots of "sock puppet pals" who mysteriously pop in and out
of the discussion always at the right time to support his actions (he
thinks) and claims. His childishness (as well as that of his alter-
ego, the bi-sexual "hellbwat),pettiness and magical thinking applied
to his interactions are a component of the "3 D" mind. It involves
"releasing the inner brat" (which is one of the "3 dimensions" - I
kid
you not!) and other bullshit extrapolations he's ripped off of pop-
psychology concepts from the last 20 or so years.

On Jan 18, 3:20 pm, Lori Koonce excite.com> wrote:

http://www.essential-skills.com/

Lori, you can go the link and watch people, yes, real people give
their testimonies, if you watch them closely you'll see they are not
dubbed over.

Lori the fact remains that Tom is nice to most people, odorus is an
idiot with an idiotic dream he is rescuing someone or something, so
any behavior which seems less than cordial to him appropriate.
and some of the other idiots like him.

Where else would ross say something like that, well their is video of
him saying that, there are e-mails of him saying that but then again
that can all be faked right? So unless you talk to ross himself,
you'll never really know.

There was a thing on you tube of Dr. Ken doing a demonstration of how
the 3D Mind model works.
Dr. Ken is a brain researcher with 25 years experience, maybe you can
talk to him?

All testimonies of the effectiveness of the 3D Mind is anecdotal, but
there is a lot of it. Which should tell you something.

On Jan 18, 4:09 pm, "fakeob...@gmail.com" gmail.com> wrote:

Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, and farther more,
blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah, more insults, more useless
trivial garbage blah blah blah blah blah.

Oh btw way, my inner brat says to go fuck yourself, blah blah blah
blah blah.
OMG, I finally found release, I'm cured.

UnkjaH

Aslong as they slavishly accept everything that he says. If for
example they question
his credentials (used carpet salesman) his qualifications (none?) or
his ability
to discuss neurophysiology at even an undergraduate level, then he
gets abusive and sends his pet
dog (unk) in for the savageing. (which apparently gets results rather
than just causes offense)

something, so

"Tom Vizzini" essential-skills.com> wrote in message
news:Kq2dnbLKTuDBVA3anZ2dnUVZ_v-hnZ2d@comcast.com...

"HellBwat" yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:73245cb0-e69d-4845-8c0d-596ddf89c903@i72g2000hsd.googlegroups.com...

Funny, a week ago you were claiming Ross was ordering my to post what I
post.... now the new story is I think I'm rescuing somebody?

Who is it I'm supposed to be rescuing?

And here I thought I was just ridiculing a spammer and his pet.

"Yawn.... yeah buddy, you sure showed me. I taunted your boy timmy
by
playing up the influence SS had on your products, since it was so
clear that
he so compulsively hates SS and Ross. And the second he read it, he
ran
crying to you like a good puppy... which was funny enough itself, but
then
the icing on the cake. You ran and cried to Ross to come to usenet
and post
that an exaggerated claim in a flame wasn't accurate... that's fucking
hilarious. "

LOL

Accept your fate Odious. There is no way to turn this one around. :)

Rest in Peace