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Re: No means no!         


Author: amused onlooker
Date: Dec 28, 2006 09:22

"dman" mytrashmail.com> wrote
> They don't care how wide the net
> is an how many innocents it catches,
> so long as it catches all of the
> guilty.

Or in the case of the Duke 3 "catches anyone in a disliked demographic".

Disliked by lefties and feminists that is.

http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/
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No means no!         


Author: dman
Date: Dec 28, 2006 09:06

Random old insightful website I've just been reading...

http://www.themenscenter.com/busterb/nomeans1.htm#weaselingout

What women are really doing with this "No means no!" campaign has not
so much to do with stopping rapists as it has to do with pushing
responsibility onto men's shoulders, something that's hardly new.

What "No means no!" really means is this:

"We women understand that much of what we say is ambiguous. We
understand that we sometimes say 'Yes' when we mean 'No' and vice
versa. We understand that you men, and in fact other women, have to
read our body language, listen to our tone of voice, and use other
clues to determine what we really mean when we talk. We understand that
misunderstandings are common. However, we refuse to take any
responsibility for this. If, in the future, there is any
misunderstanding between us, if there is any misinterpretation of what
I said or what you said, then we want it to be your fault. Regardless
of how vague we are, it's your job as men to figure out what we meant
and act accordingly, even when we don't know ourselves what we meant
until we reflect upon it later."
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Re: No means no!         


Author: Lori Koonce
Date: Dec 28, 2006 09:58

> It saddens me how easily a girl can easily completely wreck many guy's
> lives just by crying out "RAPE!"

Hey dman

I just wanna get a little info before I decide if I'm gonna be angry or
not with you.

I read the two posts of yours in this thread, and it sounds to me like
you think that ALL women play those kinds of games in all parts of both
their work and social lives.

Do you think that women are playing on par with men in ALL aspects of
society? And if we are, how has that hurt men in anyway that is truly
meaningful and permenate?

Lori
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Re: No means no!         


Author: amused onlooker
Date: Dec 28, 2006 10:13

"dman" wrote
>
> amused onlooker wrote:
>> "dman" mytrashmail.com> wrote
>>
>>> They don't care how wide the net
>>> is an how many innocents it catches,
>>> so long as it catches all of the
>>> guilty.
>>
>> Or in the case of the Duke 3 "catches anyone in a disliked demographic".
>>
>> Disliked by lefties and feminists that is.
>>
>> http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/
>
> Came across that Duke case a week ago, that kind of stuff is sadly
> happening far too frequently.
>
> It saddens me how easily a girl can easily completely wreck many guy's ...
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Re: No means no!         


Author: Bornnatural
Date: Dec 28, 2006 10:10

"amused onlooker" void.com> wrote in message
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> "dman" wrote
>>
>> amused onlooker wrote:
>>> "dman" mytrashmail.com> wrote
>>>
>>>> They don't care how wide the net
>>>> is an how many innocents it catches,
>>>> so long as it catches all of the
>>>> guilty.
>>>
>>> Or in the case of the Duke 3 "catches anyone in a disliked demographic".
>>>
>>> Disliked by lefties and feminists that is.
>>>
>>> http://durhamwonderland.blogspot.com/
>>
>> Came across that Duke case a week ago, that kind of stuff is sadly
>> happening far too frequently. ...
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Re: No means no!         


Author: amused onlooker
Date: Dec 28, 2006 10:21

"Lori Koonce" excite.com> wrote
> how has that hurt men in anyway that is truly
> meaningful and permenate?

Feminist lobbying in the political arena has resulted in:

* Affirmative action plans favouring women

* Rape laws virtually condemning men as guilty before the trial has started

* No-fault divorce laws favouring women

* Child custody laws favouring women

* Child support laws favouring women

* Domestic dispute laws favouring women

* Women's "refuges" who's aim is to disenfranchise men from their families

Plus we have:

* Men more at risk from violence than women

* Prison sentencing being 10 times harsher on men than women for the same
crime

* At least 10 times more money is spent on health issues that only affect
women as opposed to ones that only affect men

* Women live longer than men

* Women get to retire earlier than men
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Re: No means no!         


Author: dman
Date: Dec 28, 2006 10:22

On Dec 29, 6:58 am, "Lori Koonce" excite.com> wrote:
>
>
>> It saddens me how easily a girl can easily completely wreck many guy's
>> lives just by crying out "RAPE!"Hey dman
>
> I just wanna get a little info before I decide if I'm gonna be angry or
> not with you.
>
> I read the two posts of yours in this thread, and it sounds to me like
> you think that ALL women play those kinds of games in all parts of both
> their work and social lives.
>

Did it really sound like that? Because I certainly do not believe all
women are like that, only a very small percentage who can give the rest
a bad name. And the damage they can cause is quite out proportion of
the number of them that there are.
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Re: No means no!         


Author: dman
Date: Dec 28, 2006 10:27

On Dec 29, 7:13 am, "amused onlooker" void.com> wrote:
> "dman" wrote
>
>
>
>
>
>> amused onlooker wrote:
>>> "dman" mytrashmail.com> wrote
>
>>>> They don't care how wide the net
>>>> is an how many innocents it catches,
>>>> so long as it catches all of the
>>>> guilty.
>
>>> Or in the case of the Duke 3 "catches anyone in a disliked demographic".
>
>>> Disliked by lefties and feminists that is.
>
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Re: No means no!         


Author: Bornnatural
Date: Dec 28, 2006 10:39

I can side with alot of what you are saying and whats in the links, but some
is too far. I know its fucked up how things have become like: When a man
messes around he should be kicked out and taken for all hes worth(hes a dog)
but if the woman does it we should be understanding and support her thru
that differcult time..lol...;)
Then you have Ray over there crying cheater......I could see him in the duke
protest group.
But, as men you have to be men, and realize that we can't do alot about the
ways things have become, other than...get inside their heads...hehe. Most
women do not fall into those groups, they really just wanted to be needed
and loved.....did you know that the founder of the womens movement was a
lesbian? Makes alot of sense in that light. I'm rambling I know...........
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Re: No means no!         


Author: Bornnatural
Date: Dec 28, 2006 10:41

"dman" mytrashmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> On Dec 29, 7:13 am, "amused onlooker" void.com> wrote:
>> "dman" wrote
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> amused onlooker wrote:
>>>> "dman" mytrashmail.com> wrote
>>
>>>>> They don't care how wide the net
>>>>> is an how many innocents it catches,
>>>>> so long as it catches all of the
>>>>> guilty.
>>
>>>> Or in the case of the Duke 3 "catches anyone in a disliked ...
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