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Newsloon largely responsible for incredible success of masf!         


Author: Anonymous
Date: Jul 31, 2008 16:40

He says the discussions here are off-topic. Absolutely right.
and absolutely because of him. Similarly, the forums on masf
are bursting.
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Re: Websites that reduce competition for gurus who can't compete in free-speech environments         


Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot
Date: Jul 31, 2008 16:53

Yes, restricting one's advertiser pool will help the "chosen" advertisers,
but at the expense of competition, p;ricing (look at how expensive
everything is), and so forth.

It might be something for the business owner to brag about, but it's not
like there's a hottie in every bed of every reader. Not even close.

As I said in another thread, there's little incentive to give away quality
free info, because the info is too valuable, and giving it away would
devalue it anyway. Even he best-constructed website cannot alter that
reality.

That any guru claiming to be "alpha" would have to bank on suppression of
competition is laughable.

--
--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru

Finding Your A-Game:
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From
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Re: Newsloon largely responsible for incredible success of fastseduction.com!         


Author: HC
Date: Jul 31, 2008 17:29

On Jul 31, 7:53�pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:
> Yes, restricting one's advertiser pool

Maybe the shit you put out doesn't meet the site owner's quality
standards. Well within their rights to restrict their advertising only
to companies that have in their opinion a quality product. It's not
like they're shutting all the competition out, just some newsloon
that's no competition at all. So the marketplace is wide open. Maybe
you just need some better shit to sell.

Or maybe they disqualify you on moral grounds, in which case if I were
you, I'd find a different place to advertise. Maybe in India. Or
maybe China, they don't read English there.

And why are you crying about advertsing, can you afford to actually
advertise? (spamming your pathetic misspelled and inaccurate sig
doesn't count as REAL advertising)

When was the last time you paid for ANY advertising? Where was your
ad, The Hobo Times?
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Re: Websites that provide high quality FREE info are available with a quick web search, no matter how gordy roy parker tries to lie about it         


Author: Krus T. Olfard
Date: Jul 31, 2008 20:46

gordy roy parker, newzloon, legal buffoon, and known liar (I know you are
a liar, gordy roy - I still have those posts with headers where you told
grievous and injurious lies about me), whined:
> As I said in another thread, there's little incentive to give away
> quality free info, because the info is too valuable,

And yet there are numerous places on the web where high quality FREE info
is available.
Of course, those places do NOT let gordy roy parker, newzloon, post on
them.
I suppose that is why gordy roy parker, newzloon, tries to pretend that
those places that have high quality FREE info do not exist.

Kind of a sour grapes attitude.

Also known as lying to promote an agenda.

gordy roy parker, newzloon, does that a lot.

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I'm an opinionated bastard. Everything I post is my opinion. If you do
not like my opinions then killfile me - if you like my opinions then send
me money.

The KTO Dictionary of Subjective Language
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Re: Websites that reduce competition for gurus who can't compete in free-speech environments         


Author: Odious
Date: Jul 31, 2008 22:40

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:BOKdndwkKOESzQ_VnZ2dnUVZ_vjinZ2d@pghconnect.com...
> Yes, restricting one's advertiser pool will help the "chosen" advertisers,
> but at the expense of competition, p;ricing (look at how expensive
> everything is), and so forth.
>

Gordo, who else besides you is banned from posting there?

Who is restricted from posting criticisms or complaints?
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Re: Hottie in every bed? I think not.         


Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot
Date: Aug 1, 2008 00:59

\The "free websites" pitch their advertisers by saying that the "free info"
is more or less a TEASE to get people to buy.

No free seduction site will get everyone laid any more than CNBC will get
one an insider's advantge on Wall Street.

You can't sell advantage to the masses, and any "guru" who requires
anticompetitive behavior to function (such as banning the competition from
advertising) should be inherently suspect.

--
--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru

Finding Your A-Game:
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From

Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:
http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf

Here's my Myspace Page: And Pickup Blog (FREE advice)
http://www.myspace.com/snodgrasspublishing
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Re: Websites that reduce competition for gurus who can't compete in fr         


Author: George Orwell
Date: Aug 1, 2008 01:55

Note the newsloon doesn't mention any specific websites. That's
because he doesn't want you to know that the website and forums at
www.fastseduction.com are COMPLETELY FREE and allow COMPLETELY FREE
SPEECH. The one thing they don't allow are mentally ill rantings
from NPD newsloons.

In article pghconnect.com>
"Ray Gordon,
aka Gordon Parker aka Gordon Roy Parker of Philadelphia Pennsylvania
>
> Yes, restricting one's advertiser pool will help the "chosen"...
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Re: Hottie in every bed? I think not.         


Author: Borked Pseudo Mailed
Date: Aug 1, 2008 04:42

In article pghconnect.com>
"Ray Gordon,
aka Gordon Roy Parker
>
> \The "free websites" pitch their advertisers by saying that the "free info"
> is more or less a TEASE to get people to buy.

Note that the newsloon doesn't identify any specific websites that engage
in such a practice. He similarly neglects to point out that
www.fastseduction.com , which was created almost entirely because of
his incessant disruption here in the alt.seduction.fast and on which
he is banned from posting, does not engage in such practices.
>
> No free seduction site will get everyone laid any more than CNBC will get
> one an insider's advantge on Wall Street.

Another false analogy, and another attempt at misdirection by the
newsloon.
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Re: Hottie in every bed? I think not.         


Author: An Old Friend
Date: Aug 1, 2008 04:56

In article pghconnect.com>,
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" cybersheet.com> wrote:
> \The "free websites" pitch their advertisers by saying that the "free
> info" is more or less a TEASE to get people to buy.
>
> No free seduction site will get everyone laid any more than CNBC will
> get one an insider's advantge on Wall Street.
>
> You can't sell advantage to the masses, and any "guru" who requires
> anticompetitive behavior to function (such as banning the competition
> from advertising) should be inherently suspect.

Where's the competition advertising on your website?
** Posted from http://www.teranews.com **
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Re: Hottie in every bed? I think not.         


Author: Alex
Date: Aug 1, 2008 10:28

in article q5Sdnca62aLUXw_VnZ2dnUVZ_gSdnZ2d@pghconnect.com, Ray Gordon,
creator of the "pivot" at ray@cybersheet.com wrote on 8/1/08 3:59 AM:
> \The "free websites" pitch their advertisers by saying that the "free info"
> is more or less a TEASE to get people to buy.
>
Name one site that pitches its free information that way.
> No free seduction site will get everyone laid any more than CNBC will get
> one an insider's advantge on Wall Street.

Are there 100 million people worldwide reading seduction websites?

I could see this being a problem if your town had 35 people and 26 of them
were visiting the sites, learning the material and doing the work.

If you think that's the case, you really are an idiot, fr00t l00p.

And find the spell-check on your computer, Mr. Super Secretary. Guess your
not 100wpm error-free anymore.
>
> You can't sell advantage to the masses, and any "guru" who requires
> anticompetitive behavior to function (such as banning the competition from
> advertising) should be inherently suspect.
>
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