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The previous poster is SPAMMING his commercial website under the guise of a
group FAQ.

This group has not gone anywhere and is noncommercial, with free speech.

Don't be misled.

--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy

Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000

This group will be restricted to 5,000 members. All new theory from the
creator of the PIVOT!

Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
have been rendered worthless through mainstream media exposure. It really
is game over for community material. Beware of Milli Vanilli gurus who
stole their ideas from others!

http://moderncaveman.typepad.com
The Official Ray Gordon Blog

On Oct 15, 12:21 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:

Milli Vanilli didn't "steal" anything. Do you think the record company
didn't know they were just lip syncing frontmen? That's who asembled
the group.

Secondly, just because you think an idea was stolen from you doesn't
always mean it was. Ideas have wings. If you didn't act on your idea
and someone else does it later and capitalizes on it, that's nobody's
fault but your own.

Lastly, while I'm not an expert PUA, I am a discriminating and savvy
consumer and I enjoy studying and talking about the PU arts because of
my interest in tagging and bagging poontang. From what I've read of
your samples on your website and other peoples works, I have to tell
you that your output is very lame and your writing styule is
amateurish and sometimes incoherent. I wouldn't spend a dime on your
material.

The only people who didn't know was the buying public.

To do the sound work for lip syncing is far far diff then a live show.

Some of the best patents were the ones that got to the Office door 1st.

..smart choice.

That is a good point, if Parker wasn't such an I/Failure, at least ONE
time he'd succeed. But no, failure is as I/Failure does. grp-ie knows.

JJTj

The guy who whines about SPAM has the following signature line. Can we
hypocrit.
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On Oct 16, 8:21 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:

Not gone anywhere? Don't say it like a good thing.

You have also not gone anywhere.

Don't misled.

dman of The Auckland Lair,

http://www.AucklandLair.com
http://www.NewZealandLair.com

Mr Gordon Roy Parker paused singing a song by Toyah, and wrote:

( said the man who posted the words: "I post here to sell books" )

I'm not misled.
I know that "Ray Gordon" didn't create "the pivot"

In article pghconnect.com>,
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" cybersheet.com> wrote:

Ah, good thing I finally convinced him to go back to an older version of
his reply to Formhandle's robot. I knew he wasn't liking the fact that
he was actually asking people to get a posting membership to
fastseduction.com and join in the discussion.

He's way too easy to manipulate, you know? But it's still fun to watch
the dancing monkey. Even when he is throwing his own shit all around the
place.