> On Feb 20, 5:59 pm, dman mytrashmail.com> wrote:
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>> On Feb 21, 8:41 am, ashenthorn aol.com> wrote:

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>>> On Feb 19, 2:27 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""

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>>> cybersheet.com> wrote:

>>>> I said looks were 80 percent of how men judge women, and 55 percent of how
>>>> women judge men.

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>>>> Status came in second, as on CUPID (20 percent of a man's equation and 10
>>>> percent of a woman's), also in line with CUPID (from "Outfoxing The Foxes").

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>>>> Those who say looks don't matter are full of it.

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>>> In getting women, looks definitely matter in terms of getting the
>>> initial audition. Women will be more amenable to an approach from a
>>> good looking guy (super good looks might cause women to actually
>>> approach you, but that can be a trap because it tends to get you the
>>> women that want you, as opposed to the women you want). But as verbal
>>> interaction proceeds, looks tend to matter less and less to the women
>>> and become replaced by communication skills as the key determining
>>> factor of whether *fucking* will take place.

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>>> Back in my nightclub going days, there was a guy who was a regular
>>> patron at my haunt of choice. I used to refer to him as "mini
>>> undertaker", due to a very slight resemblance to the professional
>>> wrestler of the same name. This guy was a mess - short, w/long
>>> stringy unwashed hair with some sloppily applied eye makeup, prone to
>>> wearing skin tight see through mesh shirts barely covering a large
>>> protruding beer gut made more prominant due to it's hanging
>>> grotesquely over pants that were obviously a few sizes too small. The
>>> guy was basically a visual affront to the senses. But, the guy was
>>> constantly surrounded by the hottest girls in the place, and dating
>>> the hottest of the girls surrounding him. The reason - because he
>>> talked to women. This guy was a conversation machine. From the
>>> moment he arrived in the club to the moment that he left, his entire
>>> evening would be spent talking to women. He would go from girl to
>>> girl, talking to every chick in the place - god only knows about what,
>>> but whatever it was, it sure worked for him.

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>> yeah, contrast this with one of the first ever guys I met from the
>> community who easily rates as one of the hottest guys you could see
>> when you look around in a lot of the clubs we were going to. yet... he
>> sucked, he would barely ever approach and wouldn't do much at all even
>> then.

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>> even way back then when I was a bit of noob I was getting more action,
>> all because your actions matter far more than your looks

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> How much action you think you'd get with your "natural" game if you
> had a fuckin' harelip or were an endomorph going pematurely bald? Ya
> fuckin' a-hole.