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Re: New Rape Laws For UK         


Author: Bornnatural
Date: Dec 28, 2006 11:32

Thats just fucking crazy, anyone else notice how the UK is going to shit
over the last 5 years? So now women there can get mad for whatever reason
scream rape cause I had a glass of wine.....jezzz. Seems the world wants
everyone to go gay......ever notice that?

BN

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> "It's rape if the woman is drunk, according to new law"
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yzj6uq
>
> "Men face...
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Re: New Rape Laws For UK         


Author: Bornnatural
Date: Dec 28, 2006 11:36

Readers bring up a good point.....why is it just pertaining to
women?.....why can't a drunk man cry rape? Its going to get where you have
to have signed docs and a witness present during the act. Unless you are
doing the same sex of course....all that perversion is A'OK.....sick world.

BN

"amused onlooker" void.com> wrote in message
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> "It's rape if the woman is drunk, according to new law"
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yzj6uq
>
> "Men face...
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Re: New Rape Laws For UK         


Author: dman
Date: Dec 29, 2006 00:02

This is proposed law is the most stupid thing I've ever read, what if
they are both drunk? Going to charge them for raping each other!
Perhaps they will get chucked into jail together in the same cell.
> Will a guy be able to use this law against a woman who takes advantage?

Doubt it, but if they could just imagine what would happen.... if I
went to court and tried to get all the women I've had sex with while
I'm drunk charged with rape I'd be laughed straight out of court.
> So, follow this scenario: What if the woman, the next morning and thinking
> better of it, decides that she has made a silly mistake, and to salve her
> conscience reports the sex act. As a fib, she adds that she was drunk. Who's
> word would be believed? We have seen enough cases of lying evil women
> shouting rape in the last 12 months, I think that this new law will make it
> far too easy for a malicious self-serving woman to destroy some innocent
> mans life; possibly even open up a new avenue for blackmail.
>
> - David, UK

I agree most with this comment, the dangers and risk of women using
this for blackmail is far to high.
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Re: New Rape Laws For UK         


Author: Odious
Date: Dec 29, 2006 12:15

"amused onlooker" void.com> wrote in message
news:YGUkh.22953$Qa6.11581@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
> "It's rape if the woman is drunk, according to new law"
>
> http://tinyurl.com/yzj6uq
>

What get me about this... is what if the guy is just as drunk?

If a guy is drunk is he also no longer responsible for his actions?

If a drunk guy and a drunk chick hookup at a club and go fuck each other...
which one is the rapist?

They're both intoxicated and incapable of giving consent according to this
law.
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Re: New Rape Laws For UK         


Author: dracozna
Date: Dec 29, 2006 13:17

Odious wrote:
> "amused onlooker" void.com> wrote in message
> news:YGUkh.22953$Qa6.11581@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>> "It's rape if the woman is drunk, according to new law"
>>
>> http://tinyurl.com/yzj6uq
>>
>
>
> What get me about this... is what if the guy is just as drunk?
>
> If a guy is drunk is he also no longer responsible for his actions?
>
> If a drunk guy and a drunk chick hookup at a club and go fuck each other...
> which one is the rapist?
>
> They're both intoxicated and incapable of giving consent according to this
> law.
>
> ...
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Re: New Rape Laws For UK         


Author: dracozna
Date: Dec 30, 2006 00:48

dman wrote:
> Alex wrote:
>> in article RGelh.11435$9e.1746@newsfe20.lga, Odious at Odious@cox.net.nospam
>> wrote on 12/29/06 3:15 PM:
>>
>>> "amused onlooker" void.com> wrote in message
>>> news:YGUkh.22953$Qa6.11581@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net...
>>>> "It's rape if the woman is drunk, according to new law"
>>>>
>>>> http://tinyurl.com/yzj6uq
>>>>
>>>
>>> What get me about this... is what if the guy is just as drunk?
>>>
>>> If a guy is drunk is he also no longer responsible for his actions?
>>>
>>> If a drunk guy and a drunk chick hookup at a club and go fuck each other...
>>> which one is the rapist?
>>>
>>> They're both intoxicated and incapable of giving consent according to this ...
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Re:Re: New Rape Laws For UK         


Date: Dec 31, 2006 07:00

Odious wrote:
>
> "dman" wrote
>
>> Isn't legal age of consent in most parts of america 16?
>> Or is this somewhere it is 18?
>>
>
> It is different from state to state.... some states are as
> low as 15, while others are at 18.
>

A handy piece of information to have..

http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm

HTH
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New Rape Laws For UK         


Author: amused onlooker
Date: Dec 28, 2006 11:12

"It's rape if the woman is drunk, according to new law"

http://tinyurl.com/yzj6uq

"Men face being charged with rape if they have sex with women who are drunk.

The proposal, contained in a Home Office report, is being considered by
ministers in a bid to boost conviction rates for sex offences and bring more
"date rapists" to justice.

The new law would mean a woman judged to be drunk at the time of having sex
would be deemed incapable of giving her consent. That would potentially open
the way for the prosecution of thousands of men for having sex with drunk
women - regardless of whether agreement had been given at the time.

Successful prosecutions for rape often founder before they get to court
because of the difficulty in proving to juries that a victim had not given
consent.

The law change would end that uncertainty and is expected to lead to a huge
rise in the current conviction rate of five per cent."

++++++++++++++++

Lets see what's in the readers comments shall we?
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Re: New Rape Laws For UK         


Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivot
Date: Dec 28, 2006 12:37

> Readers bring up a good point.....why is it just pertaining to
> women?.....why can't a drunk man cry rape?

Because men like you talk about "loving women" or "respecting women" and put
them on a ridiculous pedestal, pretending they are creatures of virtue so
that they might fuck you.

Don't blame yourself if the legislature takes you seriously.

This will likely lead to an explosion of prostituion because if she's sober
enough to enter into a contract for sex, she's sober enough not to be raped.

--
Ray Gordon, Author
The OFFICIAL Ray Gordon Blog:
http://moderncaveman.typepad.com
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Re: New Rape Laws For UK         


Author: Bornnatural
Date: Dec 28, 2006 12:44

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:ZPGdnbzn-Mi3tgnYnZ2dnUVZ_qK3nZ2d@pghconnect.com...
>> Readers bring up a good point.....why is it just pertaining to
>> women?.....why can't a drunk man cry rape?
>
> Because men like you talk about "loving women" or "respecting women" and
> put them on a ridiculous pedestal, pretending they are creatures of virtue
> so that they might fuck you.

Laughing. I wish it was that simple.
>
> Don't blame yourself if the legislature takes you seriously.

Doubltful.....but I do know that the senate keeps a close eye on this group.
Snicker.
>
> This will likely lead to an explosion of prostituion because if she's
> sober enough to enter into a contract for sex, she's sober enough not to
> be raped.

Naw.....doubltful if it even gets passed, even for the UK.

BN
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