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Group: alt.seduction.fast · Group Profile
Author: speedingspeeding Date: Dec 4, 2006 20:19
> Was out sarging as a wing to my friend Moose last night and had
> something strange happen. I was hoping to get some advice from the
> masters...
>
> We hit a local bar to watch the late NFL game and maybe open some sets.
> Unfortunately, the usually reliable watering hole was completely dead.
> I'm talking two couples on dates and a single table full of dudes with
> one extremely unattractive chick. We were about to take off when our
> server showed up... a very cute HB8.5 with a knockout body. So... we
> pull up some chairs and order a round.
>
> Since the place was so dead we couldn't really get any social proof or
> demonstrate value to this HB, as there just weren't any other people
> around. We just decided to plow in and take some shots solo. Did the
> following:
>
> Ignored her and accused her of interrupting and being bossy - This went
> over pretty well.
>
> Hit her with a little sniper neg about her breath by offering a mint
> ("No... you really do need a mint!") - seemed to work even better
>
> Ran the secret admirer opener, modified slightly for local flavor -
> this worked great! She pulled up a chair and leaned in close to offer
> her opinion on the matter. I even got a little kino when she grabbed
> my arm for emphasis.
>
> Then it all went downhill. Moose tried a little neg about her
> shoulders, of all things. She was wearing a football jersey so my boy
> said "You look great in that jersey, but did you have to wear the
> shoulder pads too?" Sounds innocent enough, right? But apparently
> this particular HB has some deep-seated complex regarding her somewhat
> bony shoulders. She proceeded to blast Moose with a withering
> go-to-hell glare and stomped off. She ignored us for the rest of the
> night and even sent another server over at one point.
>
> My question is: How can you recover from a neg that obviously hits a
> sore spot?
>
> Any advice would be greatly appreciated...
>
> Thanks,
>
> Kansas
Hey Kansas,
Welcome! Well, he it is... hindsight 20/20 and all. One neg too many. If
you can run kino, you're way past the point of needing to do a neg.
There's one and only one reason to use a neg. Most starting guys use them
WAY too much. And that's because the neg is not explained as well as
perhaps it should be... or perhaps it's explained as being some great
tool. It's not.
A neg is a negative compliment. Pure and simple. It's a compliment that
has a "negative" side to it. Now, granted, the line as delivered is a
wonderful neg. It's a compliment "You look great" but it's also negative
"except for your man shoulders". So, as an opener on a stuck up HB, it's
perfect. But, on a HB that's already eating out of your palm... it's a
slap in the face. The first part of a neg is that it can not be negative
only or it's just an insult. But, the second half is that you only use it
to get a stuck up chick to remember she's just a plain old person.
If she grabbed your arm... damn dude. That's as serious an IOI as most
gals ever give. She was seriously into you. The only recovery I could
see, and it's not a good one, would have been to have immediately told
her to ignore your friend because he's an asshole. But that's not good
for two reasons... while your friend IS an asshole for screwing up your
sarge (and it happens, so he's not that big an asshole) it also means
that you are with him... so, what are you, then? That's a hard recovery.
Take it as a learning experience. Otherwise, you're on fire!
--
She wants to meet a man and God dammit! I am a man! == Scruff
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