Being a casual student of David DeAngelo for 18 months or so, my view
of the seduction scene is governed by excercises and techniques
reminding guys that in order to be men, they have to stop being so
needy, etcetera, etcetera.

I found out that there were other players in this scene of helping guys
a few months ago, and never really gave it much thought - they were
simply other guys like David D looking to make some money out of the
techniques they had amassed and developed, all in a very friendly
manner. I saw clips of Mystery after having seen him in David D's Body
Language seminar, and was struck by his arrogance and separation from
women, resulting in an apparent lack of connection with women. I
listened to David D's interview with Tyler, and found the guy to be
fascinating; intelligent, fairly well spoken, and original. So formed
my first conceptions of the other facets to the seduction community.

Then, out of sheer coincidence, my best friend suggested that if I was
getting into all this Attraction Isn't A Choice deal, I should read
"The Game". This was fairly surprising, given that my best friend...

I am also new to this community and to be honest not sure what to
expect from it. I know from my own web based enterprises that groups do
not necessarily become overly large any more, I think due to the
hundred of new ways to express one else, such as MySpace, private
forums, blogs and podcasts, etc.

I am thrilled to find this community, however, because as a guy
approaching midlife, and seeking new experiences with women and wishing
to learn what makes them tick and having some fun before possibly
settling down again (and after a divorce - the motto is definitely once
bitten, twice shy!) I have found it hard to get back into the dating
game. It was some 18 years ago that I needed 'attraction' skills and
the world has moved on and women much more 'power assertive'.

I haven't read The Game, and couldn't tell whether you were
recommending it or not, but I have read a few of the ebooks from
Juggler, Mystery and DD, excellent ideas and concepts contained within,
and I looking for find what works for me as a British guy in his early
40's - and also as such, what will attract women of the 30-38 age
bracket to me!

Those women are empty-netters.

Fire at will.

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Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.

A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "AFCs pay my rent."

He can select among those women who would have him.

In the "hookup culture," with all the hotties forever on the market, it's
much easier to get a hottie, but far more difficult to keep one, wihch is
due to simple supply and demand.

Guys who are free agents are going to thrive because they won't get bogged
down in "relationships" with women who will either be cheating on them or
ready to move on the second a better offer comes along.

--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.

A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "AFCs pay my rent."

late.romanticist@gmail.com writes:

First let me say welcome. Next let me say i like your writing and wish
you had something more original to say because your good English
skills are a pleasure to read. Third let me say that style uses the...

Hey, maybe they have a minor child you can "..wish to die.."
and do the whole Gordon Roy "i was jesus' Parker effect..

Yeah, someone might come right up to you and go "BOO!"

BTW, grp-ie. Where is the Police case # (s) you MUST
have since you have posted that you have contacted them
about me. AND..where is that "..lawyer in my hometown.."
ready to deal with me..I want to talk to them..

See, asswipe child molester. U have a choice.

U can back up yer herpes infested, mommie's BF bloodied,
dolly kissing mouth...or watch ya back. Maybe I'll contact
the Police in YOUR AREA and inform them you are making impotent
threats USING THEIR power. Maybe I'll just stop by and ask
Penny out for coffee. Maybe something else..maybe nothing @ all.

Cause I have to be in PA in Dec, before NAMM in Jan.

...I want to give U the chance to back up yer cakehole.

U have my cell #, all me. Maybe I'll call ya mom and
make a coffee date. Bet she has alot to say about 'ray-world'..

late.romanticist@gmail.com wrote in news:1162192544.270623.62340
@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com:

late.romanticist@gmail.com wrote:

You're in the wrong place. This might have been the place 5+ years ago.
We're pretty much all over at mASF now. Just Google it or look at my sig.

You're posting the kind of "I found the game" nonsense as a few hundred
guys have done in the past year. It's kind fo boring. Having ready a
book from a single person's perspective, you are also viewing the
community through a subjective pair of goggles.

Do yourself a favor and peruse the actual community portal.

No, he's not.

This place is completely neutral, uncensored, and doesn't have a
self-appointed "gatekeeper" profiting from the postings.

Trashing this group merely to promote one's commercial website is simply
lame.

--
Money is not "game."
Looks are not "game."
Social status or value is not "game."
Those are the things that game makes unnecessary.

A seduction guru who teaches you that looks, money or status is game is not
teaching you "game," but how to be an AFC. He uses his students' money to
get women and laughs that "AFCs pay my rent."

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:-LCdnYW9QKSeGNXYnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@pghconnect.com...

And you are not trashing this group every day with your lame screeds? YOU
are the reason all the other groups exist.