"Odious"
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> "Speeding"
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> news:_gxri.7$Mu5.5@newsfe15.phx...>> Formhandle wrote in
>> news:fP6dnWpm4IdomDPbnZ2dnUVZ_sKqnZ2d@
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>>
>>> Speeding wrote:
>>>
>>>> F...
>>
>> Pulling a Gordon here, I see.
>>
>>>> Unlike your MEBERS-ONLY wingman database, which requires not only
>>>> an e-mail address, but outright registration.. JUST TO VIEW.
>>>
>>> A forum for hooking up with wings is transient and offers no real
>>> privacy. That leads to a few occasional posts which might offer a
>>> match for guys, you're talking barely a dozen a week at best even
>>> for high traffic forums.
>>
>> I don't recall making any commercial statements about who's is
>> better. Only that these do NOT require any form of information to be
>> sent in or an active membership just to view.
>
> Untrue... they both require establishing a login to fully view the
> posts or to post any messages.
>
>>Yes, yours has "privacy", in so much
>> as that MEMBERS ONLY can see posts.
>>
>> And gee, you are correct, guys looking for wings are quite often
>> transient,
>
> Learn to read, jackass.... "A forum for hooking up with wings is
> transient ..."
>
>
> He said the forum was transiant, not the guys on it. Why must you
> lie and distort anything that anybody says?
>
> Oh yeah, because you have no sound arguments.
>
>>so a "database" of information on who they are, where they
>> are, what they are looking for, e-mail information, bio information,
>> blood typing, and whatever other crap is required to join... is
>> pretty useless to aomeone that's ALREADY POSTED on Usenet asking for
>> BASIC information on the existance of others in his general area
>> looking for a wingmate.
>
> How is that useless? A database of wings in a given area looking for
> other wings seems to me like the most useful tool for someone looking
> for wings in their area.
>
>>It's like you're building a database of personal information. A
>> customer database or something.
>>
>
> Yawn....
>
>>> A database, however, offers far greater possibilities. Search by
>>> location, proximity searches, bios, and the means to maintain
>>> privacy and even exchange messages without either person knowing the
>>> other's real email address until deciding to actually meet. That's
>>> what PAIR is and it now has nearly 30,000 members.
>>
>> And just how many of thoe 30,000 members are STILL looking for a
>> wing? Oh wait, that's CLASSIFIED information, unless you're the DBA.
>
> Note that speedings lies about the forum having been exposed, he's
> left with no option but to try and change the subject to made up
> bullshit.
>
> Does speeding have any evidence that the database is out of date or
> any complaints from users?
>
> Nope, he's 100%% talking out his ass as usual.
>
>> A guy looking
>> to find out who else is active in a city doesn't need a "database" of
>> other people, does he? All he needs is a reply saying "Yeah... I'm in
>> XYZ too. Let's hook up." That's it. No "Biography". No registration.
>
>
> To post a message or reply on the fourms you listed, registration is
> required... which requires a valid e-mail address.
>
> So do stop lying.
>
>
>> No
>> deception. No anything. You seem to be pretty hung up on the concepts
>> of cataloging and recording all personal information for yourself...
>> and on deception and subterfuge among community members.
>>
>
> The fact that mystery's forums have a few hundreds posts, and the PAIR
> database has 30,000 + listings, shows that men value their privacy and
> do not want to have their request for a wing on a site that can be
> anonymously searched by anybody.
>
>>> Wow, free registration, who would ever do that in exchange for a
>>> service like that? And you list it last instead of first LOL.
>>> Makes total sense......
>
> However to post or to reply to a post... they do.
>
> You're splitting those hairs pretty fine just to find something else
> to bitch about regarding
www.fastseduction.com
>
>
>> and they don't
>> promote the iea of deception and subterfuge among members.
>
> So a database that isn't open for anybody to anonymously brows through
> the personal information of people in it, is promoting deception and
> subterfuge.
>
> Tell me speeding, why don't you post your full name, birth date,
> social security number, and your home address, to this group?
>
> I mean according to you, doing otherwise is promoting deception and
> subterfuge, right?
>
> Or is that standard just for other people?
>
>
>> I listed your last simply due to the fact that there's are memberhip-
>> free, regitration-free, no strongs attached free.
>
> Unless you want to post, or reply to any of the posts.
>
> But hey, don't let that fact get in the way of your continued endless
> avalanche of bullshit.
>
>
>>Yours requires the
>> person to fill out an application to obtain an active membership jut
>> to view something that some people might even be able to find by
>> using Google or MySpace.
>
> Again you comment on the content of a database which you clearly know
> nothing about.
>
>
>> I find it rather strange that someone that swears ASF is "dead" is so
>> concerned with his listing order on an ASF FAQ he desn't even
>> supposedly care about. After all, isn't ASF something you barely even
>> care about? Why are you even bothering to post commercials... or
>> worry abut your "ranking/list order"... in a newsgroup you consider
>> to be dead?
>
> Looks to me like his concern is as mine, simply exposing you as the
> liar and troll you are.
>
> When you're unable to support your position you whine that even
> questioning your claims means someone must have some vast agenda
> beyond simply correcting inaccurate and misleading crap you post.
>
>
>>>>> Looks like membership is required on both of those sites, too, in
>>>>> order to make use of them in any way potentially related to
>>>>> finding wingmen, although you don't note that the way you do about
>>>>> PAIR ("a membership is required to view P.A.I.R.") which probably
>>>>> should say "a FREE membership is required to view P.A.I.R.".
>>>>
>>>> You, of course, are a first rate liar. Nothing to be unexpected
>>>> from a guy that pots an FAQ with a misleading title.
>>>>
>>>> Neither Venutianarts nor Themyterymethod require any sort of
>>>> information or memberhip to view them.
>>>
>>> The URLs you were providing did, before I corrected you. You can't
>>> go back and edit all your past posts. So who is the liar?
>>
>> You are. Thank you for pointing out that you are.
>>
>>> Oh and you might want to continue reading, because I got your balls
>>> in a vice on this one...
>>
>> Sure you do. Is this where you pull another Gordon and threaten a
>> lawsuit?
>>
>>>> PAIR, however, unless you care to lie some more,
>>>> SPECIFICALLY REQUIRES membership to view... let' see how it's
>>>> stated, shall we?
>>>>
>>>> "Requires a valid e-mail address to join (solely for registration
>>>> verification, abuse tracking, & relaying mail between wingmen)."
>>>
>>> Wow, you got me there. Someone has to actually use an email address
>>> like they do on myspace or frienster to gain access to a superior
>>> resource. Because most people really want to join a service that
>>> allows random people with fake addresses to send spam to them when
>>> all they want is to find wingmen. Yeah, I can see how this is a bad
>>> thing.
>>
>> I'm sure you can. I'm sure you can clearly see how not building a
>> personal database of customer... I mean member... information on your
>> site is a "bad thing". I'm sure it's keeping you awake at night...
>> thinking about how some guy on a newsgroup you swear is dead... is
>> posting ALTERNATIVE SITES to your personal customer... I mean
>> member.. database.
>>
>
> You can refute his points so all you can do is try to whine and imply
> that somehow this database of wingmen is being used for selling
> products or marketing.
>
> Care to name one person from the PAIR database who is claiming this
> happend?
>
> Or are you again simply making shit up like gordon?
>
>
>> After all... you swear ASF is dead, which explains your two a week
>> commercials... you swear there are no alternatives to ASF other than
>> your commercial database... webportal... I mean forum.
>
> Still waiting for you to name ONE other seduction forum with
> newsreader access.
>
> You keep ignoring the question like a spineless little coward.
>
>
>> And I'm posting to a
>> "dead" newsgroup that there are alternatives to looking for a wing on
>> that "dead" newsgroup, inclusing yur memeber only database. I'm not
>> sure if you are pissed that I'm mentioning your site on a "dead"
>> newgroup or that I have the audacity to mention the alternatives to
>> your database. Portal. I mean forum/site/catch-all.
>
> I think it was more the part where you lie and attempt to mislead
> people into thinking there's some fee required. You say membership
> instead of registration and often have claimed outright that the
> resoruces on
fastseduction.com are not free.
>
> You obviously feel some need to point out that you need to register to
> view pair, and yet fail to mention you need similar registration on
> the other forums you listed in order to search, post, or reply to
> posts. All you really can do without registering is cull though
> hundreds of posts to find the few where someone posted an outside,
> e-mail and contact them that way. But odly enough you did not feel it
> was necessary to mention that when you were listing off inconvinences.
>
> So don't try to act as if your post was anything other than the
> typical shit you pull, ya douche.
>
>>
>>>>> But thanks for referring PAIR, a service specifically designed to
>>>>> help guys find wings, even if you listed it last.
>>>>
>>>> It's only listed last, becaue unlike Venutianarts and
>>>> Themysterymethod, it is not available for open access public
>>>> viewing. It requires... how's it worded... "a valid e-mail address
>>>> to join".... It requires membership.
>>>
>>> Did you know the TMM forum also "requires membership" to view full
>>> threads and messages? Oh shit, did I just catch you full of shit
>>> again?
>>
>> Are you telling lies and being full of shit again? Yes, you are. No,
>> it does NOT "require memeberhip" to view full threads and messages.
>> Gordon does it all the time. There is, though, member's only
>> section, and that does require membership. And yes, there is a recent
>> feature that ALLOWS members to hide their pots from guests.
>
> So you just admitted you lied when you said you do not need to
> register to see full posts.
>
> You can't view the members section or hidden posts, nor can you post,
> nor can you reply without the oh so evil registration that you thought
> was so horrible it needed to be specifically noted for
>
fastseduction.com but not the other sites you listed?
>
>
>> It's not an automatic feature and
>> it's not something FORCED on members. (that's your shtick) It's an
>> added feature for members. It ALLOWS members to choose.
>>
>
> Which means that all posts are not viewable, unless you have
> registered.
>
> So again you are lying for the sake of attacking
fastseduction.com
>
>
>> And you're not exactly big on chice, are you? So, now that you just
>> stuffed yourself full of shit and lied yet again to promote your
>> product... do you plan to apologize to TMM for your blantent
>> misrepresentation of their services?
>>
>
> What did he misrepresent, he said you have to register to view full
> threads and messages... and you admitted that the members section is
> blocked and any post can be blocked from non-registered users if the
> poster wants. That means in order to view all the threads and
> messages in the forum, you have to register...just like on
>
fastseduction.com.
>
> Yet you act as if registering on
fastseduction.com is some
> inconvenient Herculean task tantamount to spending loads and loads of
> money.
>
>>> You didn't know that? Either you did & you're lying, or you
>>> didn't
>>> which shows that you're promoting things to people that you haven't
>>> even looked at yourself.
>>
>> Perhaps you are just lying once again, distoring the truth,
>> advertising your site on a dead newsgroup, and trying to cover and
>> obfuscate the fact that, in fact, there ARE more alternatives to ASF
>> than you claim.
>
>
> Still waiting for you to name one other seduction fourm with
> newsreader access.
>
> Since that was what Form was referring to in the quote you now refuse
> to cite because it shows you're mischaracterizing what he wrote. You
> take a quote referring to the nntp newsreader accessibility of mASF,
> and act as if Form said mASF was the only forum on the subject of
> seduction or pick ups. When he was in fact talking about the mASF
> forums being the only forums with newsreader access.
>
>
>> I
>> understand you have a business to run and are just trying to make a
>> buck or three. I don't fault you for that. But, come on... try to be
>> a little more honest in your advertiing. Is that so much to ask?
>>
>
> So far it is clear that you're the one lying, as you continue to be
> unable to name even ONE other seduction forum with newsreader
> accessibility.
>
>>> From the main page:
>>> "Welcome to The Attraction Forums!
>>> Warning! You are viewing the forums as a guest! Either register
>>> and/or log in to view the contents of entire posts."
>>>
>>> Well shit, Speeding, got yourself in a dilemma there, huh? How are
>>> you going to talk yourself out of that one?
>>
>> By showing you are full of shit...
>> "You can now choose to make posts private to unregistered users!"
>>
>
> How does that disprove his claim that to see all the posts, you have
> to register?
>
> You can try to change the subject and whine about choice, but the
> issue at hand is if the forums you listed can be, as you claimed,
> fully viewed without registration. And the answer is celarly, NO,
> they can not.
>
> So you've been lying again in order to attack
www.fastseduction.com
>
>
>> I know, it pisses you off to consider the idea of choice. Keeps you
>> up LATE LATE at night thinking about the fact that there ARE
>> alternatives to ASF other than your database.
>
> When did form claim the PAIR database was an alturnative to ASF?
>
> Cite the quote or again be caught lying.
>
>
>
>> I know it keeps you up worrying that ome
>> random guy is posting links to those alternatives on a "dead"
>> newsgroup. I know you are shitting yourself, pulling Gordon-like
>> tactics, thinking that the newsgroup you consider to be dead has some
>> poster putting up an FAQ that isn't giving full due praise (even
>> deining to list your site "last" on one part) to you and your
>> commercial interests.
>>
>
> Note that speeding wasn't able to refute one point form raised about
> the specific details of the content that can be viewed on those forums
> sans registration. instead speeding was only able to toss out a pile
> of lame one-line snarky accusations.
>
>
>
>>> That's right, on mASF people who are not registered can still view
>>> the full content of all threads but on TMM they have to register to
>>> even do THAT. I have no problem with that, I like those guys, but I
>>> do have a problem with you bending reality to suit your bullshit and
>>> trying to pawn the BS off to people because you don't like the
>>> established FAQ.
>>
>> Um... are we talking about PAIR or about mASF? Make up your mind.
>
> LOL! speeding you are such a transparent idiot... form had you singing
> the praises of site that require registration to fully view the forum
> content for being so freely accessible. And when form points out that
> the mASF forums are fully viewable without registration, you suddenly
> want to change the subject.
>
>
>> This is
>> about replying to posts on ASF... a "dead" newsgroup, you claim...
>> with THREE diferent locations that have information on how to find
>> wingmates. Two of which are freely accessible without any strings
>> attached...
>
> Funny you switched from saying you need no registration to VIEW them,
> to now saying you need no registration to ACCESS them.
>
> Apparently speeding's definition of "freely accessable" means, you
> can't fully view all messages and groups, can't post, and can't reply
> to posts.
>
>> and
>> one of which requires memeberhip just to view. Perhaps you would
>> prefer it if I stated that PAIR does nt require a memebership to
>> view. You don't mind lies, so long as they bolster your interests, do
>> you?
>
> Caught in a lie, speeding's only option is to argue that he could tell
> a bigger lie?
>
>
>>>> I realize you have a commerical interest in promoting your site.
>>>> That's all fine and dandy. I have nothing against you making a buck
>>>> or three. You run a fantastic site. I would, though, be more
>>>> supportive if you were honest in your advertising.
>>>
>>> Spoken like a true hypocrite.
>>
>> Yes. A hypocrite that lies about membership requirements to view
>> posts and lies about alternatives to ASF and lies about his
>> disinterest in a "dead" newgroup.
>
> Still waiting for you to name ONE other forum on seduction that has
> newsreader access.
>
> I mean if there are all these other alturnatives to mASF with
> newsreader access... why can't you name even one?
>
>
>
This just shows me I was right to killfile speedy. He is still doing his
circular arguing and outright lying...
Wotta fuckin' macaroon...
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