Just because your mother says you don't have to ride in the car seat
anymore and your older sister doesn't have to take you to the school
bus stop and wait with you and your mother has promised you long pants
the next time she buys clothes for you (though I'm sure your very cute
in your shorts), it doesn't mean that you have anything to say to the
grown-ups.

There are two things about real men that seem to be true: 1) They
aren't worried about whether they are real men, nor are they
particularly worried about someone who has to use 'realmen101.html' as
a kind of manual for being a man. They aren't cartoon characters
acting out like is says on p. 45 of the 'Manual for Being a Real Man'
like you seem to be; 2) they are generally considered nice guys by
both women and men and are extremely comfortable with themselves and,
as a result, comfortable with nearly everyone else. They don't
declare themselves 'manly men' because they don't have to and women
respond to that and men respond to it, though for different reasons
(obviously).

You, on the other hand, have the one characteristic of all false men:
you have to declare your manhood. Little boy and what else can you be
when you think that schoolyard gender insinuations and insults are
something important, you haven't brought any revelations to enlighten
anyone on this NG and that includes the most clueless newbies.
Everybody here, newbies included, has pretty much grown up past the
need for a handbook on manhood and is ready to tackle the existential
problem of how do I get laid. No ism this, or ism that to blame
things on.

What I find hilarious is that people who function from your space are
the absolute easiest to eliminate in any kind of seduction scenario.
Just push their little 'manly man' buttons and watch them act the
fool. It's not necessary, of course, you're not competitive, but it
can be entertaining for the crowd and always gets the lady.

Vance

On Sep 9, 7:54 pm, nfm gmail.com> wrote: