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Group: alt.seduction.fast · Group Profile
Author: Thom E. Geiger
Date: Mar 8, 2007 15:19

On Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:12:02 GMT, Speeding biz.org> wrote:
>> Simple, I own the Ray-Gordon.com domain name and Gordon Roy Parker did
>> a WHOIS to see who owned it once the RayFAQ showed up on a website the
>> domain name pointed to. That WHOIS info included my name and address
>> as the technical contact.
>
>Okay. You own the Gordon site. And Gordon found out, leading him to file
>a suit against you. Which leads to the next question...

No, this answers the question of whether you are Gordon Roy Parker, or
simply another one of those occasional pimple faced young sycophants
Parker is able lead around by the nose and get into all sorts of
trouble, at least until he tries to get them to do something with
severe legal culpability attached to it. Then they seem to get a clue
and hit the bricks, quick.

So, in four years of his senseless and useless legal frivolity, only
Gordon Roy Parker has ever tried to use the terms "domain name" and
web site interchangeably in this newsgroup, referring to both
incessantly by the incorrect term "domain". It's not accurate and not
true, and only you do it, Parker, so you've just burned yourself, GRP.
>Whow... wait a minute. You never had a site about Gordon until after he
>filed a suit against you. But above, you say that Gordon discovered you
>by finding that you had created a site about him.

You stated this exact wording in your lawsuit against me, Parker, but
I have never said I had [quoting what you just said] "...created a
site about him."
Never, anywhere, as it pertains to the RayFAQ. Never. So, only you-
Gordon Roy Parker, have ever accused me of admitting something I've
never said. Only you. Big mistake, gasoline freak.

I said I owned the domain name and it pointed to a website where
someone [and I clearly stated it wasn't me] had authored an FAQ about
GRP [you]. You still think you can convince a federal judge that
pointing a domain name to a site lets you control the site, eh? When
are you going to give it up, Gordon? Domain name owners know it's not
true, six year olds know it's not true, federal judges know it's not
true, and it doesn't fly, because anybody who uses domain names knows
the truth. Try something else for a change. Next lie, Parker.
>Now... let's make sure you got your claims straight here. Because you
>changed them from the first to the second answer. In your first answer,
>you said you owned the Ray-Gordon.com domain name. In your second answer,
>you say that you never had a site about Gordon. Only one statement can be
>true. The other must be false. Either you ===
>
>#1: Owned Ray-Gordon.com and Ray discovered it and sued you...
>#2: You never owned a site about Ray Gordon until after he sued you...
>
>And then you say... any sites I owned about Ray Gordon were never
>authored by me. But you owned them? How can you own a site that you have
>no knowledge of? That would be like me claiming that I own a home but
>have no knowledge of that possession.

Again you try to run with the crap argument that a domain name and a
web site are the same thing. I have never said I owned the site of the
FAQ, Dumbass. Do you know how stupid and ignorant that makes you
sound, Gordon? Besides the fact that it gives your real identity
totally away. They're not the same thing and the more you try to sell
it to people, the more people realize (1) you're Gordon Roy Parker, no
matter what nym you're using at the time (2) you're a liar, (3) you're
full of crap (4) you don't know what the hell you're talking about.

I own over 60 domain names and half don't even point to websites or
name servers anywhere on the internet. How can that be, Gordon Roy,
since according to you, a domain name can't exist without a website to
point to. Hunh, dumbass?
I owned the name, pointed it to a website with content authored by
somebody else, and said that. You quoted that, or are you so stupid
you don't read what you quote? Want to throw some gas and flick a Bic
now, Sparky?
>>How does someone that never heard of Gordon decide to create a website
>>about Gordon?
>
> Same answer as above.
>
>Yes. You owned a site called Ray-Gordon.com but did not know it.

Keep going, Gordon Roy Parker, rope and plenty of it. There's a method
to keeping you ranting on the same old lies.

I owned the domain name Ray-Gordon.com and only Gordon Roy Parker has
ever claimed that means I owned the website it pointed to *ONLY
BECAUSE I OWNED THE DOMAIN NAME*. Only you, Gordon, and now we know
who you really are, Parker. You outed yourself with your stupid crap.
Blame yourself. Get Mom's baseball bat ready, loser. You're going to
need it.
>Well... not exactly. It would be near impossible to say you have a
>motivation about owning something while also claiming you have no
>knowledge of the thing. You can't have a motivation for something you
>claim to have no knowledge of.

No, because only you, Parker, have tried to claim owning a domain name
means owning the website it points to. Only you, in all of the
internet, billions of pages and millions of readers, surfers and
authors, only you and you alone. Revealing isn't it, Parker?? Can you
say the word, Parker? OUTED! Oh my gawd, Mommy, where's that slugger?
>Okay. You owned the domain name. I think I understand your claim. You are
>claiming that someone was illegally using the domain name you owned
>without your knowledge or consent. That you owned the rights and IP for
>www.ray-gordon.com... but someone else had illegally created a website
>and somehow managed to get his server linked to your domain IP and
>address.
>
>I'll bet ICANN is very interested to determine how content was being re-
>routed like that. I'm sure they aren't alone. (I'd love to know how I can
>post my website on someone else's domain without their knowledge or
>consent!)

I've posted the how-to of pointing a domain name and how to set up a
domain name in a host's DNS name servers. Of course, you have a vested
interest in not admitting the way the system really works. So, you,
Parker, are the only human on the entire planet who says he uses
domain names but he's so stupid he can't understand how a person can
point a domain name to a website they don't own.

BTW, this was all covered in the answer to the last complaint in PAED,
so don't you think some of the readers here have already read the
info? I thought you called yourself a genius, geenooos? Do you need
some unleaded to go with that death spell, Parker?

For the archives, one more time, [bring up the band in the background
for the terminally stupid child threateners out there]
I set the DNS settings at the name registrar to point to the name
servers of a web host. They were numbers I got in an email message. I
set those numbers. End of story. I didn't have to author content, own
the site hosting account or have access to the control panel of the
web site, just set the DNS settings at the company where I registered
the domain name. DUH, gee, dum dee dum, golly mr. wizaard. You're a
lying Dumbass, Parker. Wanta throw a spell at my knees now, einstein?
>Damn dude! Owning domain names can't be cheap. Even if you managed to
>snag them way back when... when they only went for like $10 a pop. If you
>own them and got them at $10 a pop, you'd be nuts to just let them
>expire. You should be selling them for like $50 or $100 a shot. Some
>domain names can fetch a ton of cash. Like TheLoneGuman.com... that
>could fetch a nice price, I'd bet.

Careful Gordon, you just used the words "domain name" instead of
"domain". Slip has been noted for later.

Way back, they all cost $35 because the only place to register a name
was Network Solutions. A net pro would know that. Oops, get the bat
toe wart spell ready...
>> What Gordon Roy Parker fails to tell everyone is I let the
>> Ray-Gordon.com domain name expire for OVER A YEAR, during which time,
>> any day of any month for twleve months, he could have registered it
>> AND DIDN"T DO IT---DUH!!
>
>But who bought it after you let it go? Something tells me it didn't just
>sit at ICANN waiting for a buyer.

Domain names don't sit at ICANN. ICANN only oversees the
administration of the naming process and resolves name conflicts.
Domain names don't exist in name servers, anywhere, until they are
registered the first time. All registrars use a registration mechanism
that goes through NetSol's servers. ICANN owns no internet wide domain
name servers.
>Meanwhile... I'm still curious as to how this mystery person was posting
>contact to your domain without your knowledge or consent. Isn't that
>rather illegal? More or less theft? What did ICANN say about the fact
>that you owned a domain that someone else was managing to route to???
>

Now you're back to using the word "domain" to refer to a name. A big
OOPS in that last slipup, eh Parker?

I owned a domain name, not a "domain", and you [Gordon Roy Parker] are
the only human to ever try to use that argument. The same BS over and
over does get boring, but you're constantly trying to claim you're the
only person on the entire internet who doesn't understand how domain
name pointing and hosting works. The only person. That says something
when you try to shill and pose, Parker. It says it all, and it reveals
why you insist on retelling it again and again. Sanctions. Right,
Psrker, because if you can't convince a judge you're simply stpid, you
face sanctions for filing a case with no merit to it. If you can
convince a judge you THOUGHT it had merit, you think you can avoid
sanctions.

They posted content to their site and I set my domain name settings to
point to their web host's name server IP numbers. Definitely not
rocket science and everybody who uses domain names knows how it works.
You have zero hopes of convincing a federal judge you're that stupid.
So who are you trying to lie to? The NG, the judges? That won't stop a
sanctions motion.
>Was this contect that was being put there without your knowledge still
>there? Heck, if ICANN hadn't fixed that after a year... why would you
>possibly want to buy a domain knowing you wouldn't have control of it
>anyways?

I didn't buy a domain, Parker, I bought a domain name. A "domain",
without the word "name" after it, technically refers to a hosted
website and the content on it, not the name that points to it. Again,
your lie catches up to you. You're the only person who has ever tried
to tell that lie, Parker.

The reference "Domain name" came about the same way the reference "dog
name"or "company name" came about. It's a reference to a NAME used to
list an IP number for a hosting account website somewhere, IF IT'S
USED FOR THAT PURPOSE AND IF THERE IS ONE TO POINT TO. Like a street
address in a phone book. It might point to an empty lot or an occupied
building. It might point somewhere and it might not.

Are you saying a domain name can't sit without being pointed anywhere?
Man up, if you can Parker. Is that what you're saying?

Common daily public practice and factual reality proves pointing a
domain name gives no control over a website pointed to. You have to
own the hosting account and/or have access to the hosting account's
control panel [the hosting industry standard is cPanel].

I set the DNS settings at my name registrar, that's all, Bingo bunko.
Are you saying that's not how it works?
>> While I had TheLoneGuman.com domain name, I was offfered over $20K to
>> transfer it to someone else, and even offered $1K per year to lease
>> the name [which is a common and completely legal practice for highly
>> desireable domain names]. I have never been in the internet business
>> for money, so I was never tempted to rent, lease or sell any of my
>> domain names.
>
>Sweet. Tempting offer too. Told you, it could fetch a nice price.
>
>But... if someone was stealing access to the ray-gordon domain... why
>didn't the folks that wanted TheLoneGuman just steal it too? After all...
>if you let someone steal ray-gordon... you'd probably let someone steal
>that too.

Again with the "domain" and not the proper "domain name" tripe again.
Give it a rest, Parker. That alone was grounds for a plain and simple
motion and you were warned.

Only Gordon Roy Parker has tried to call my domain name the ray-gordon
domain. You see, Parker, only you won't acknowledge the difference
between a domain name and a website it points to. Only you and nobody
else. But we both know why you can't. It's that pesky legal problem
again. Sanctions. If you admit knowing they are two separate and
differnet things, you are subject to sanctions for filing a complaint
based on a lie and had no merit.

You know as well as I do, you can't publicly admit there's a
difference, because it would sink your fake accusations in the courts.
You're committed to trying to convince the courts you're stupid about
domain names and web sites, so you can claim ignorance of the truth
when I hit the courts up for sanctions for filing a complaint and
appeal based on a lie.

The mere fact that you're lying about that one issue constitutes proof
you knew your argument was doomed, therefore shouldn't have been taken
as far as you did. You know, as well as I do, that constitutes proof
of a frivolous suit before the courts, proof needed for sanctions. But
you think if you play stupid until the very end, it will mean you can
all of a sudden say, "gee, golly, I never knew it worked like that."

Fat chance, Parker, fat chance. I can prove to the courts you know a
domain name is not a website hosting account and doesn't control a
hosting account. So, there's my proof you knew your complaint was
filed solely for frivolous purposes, since it was based on a lie. A
lie you've purposely told and intentionally repeated in every
kooksoot.
I'll argue you lied about it and you can only argue you're stupid.
We'll see who wins the argument. Awww...itching for that gas can now,
Parker?
>Author or not... you knew of its existance at this point. But, no, I'd
>say you shouldn't be blamed for your generousity. After all, if you own a
>gun, and give it to someone else, and they rob a bank with it... it's not
>like you could be held accountab.... oh... wait... actually you could
>be held accountable to complicity, if it was proven you knew of the
>intent to use the gun in the crime.

You tried to use that same gun analogy in one of your kooksoots,
talking about the ray-gordon.com domain name, then you switched to a
car analogy in the last soot. Another "tell" Parker. You still can't
get that through your head about the "tells" can you? Geenooos my ass.
Want to take a whiz on a grave, Parker?
>But, perhaps lending a domain name isn't quite the same, legally, as
>lending a gun to a person. And you did say right here you knew that the
>domain was being used for a certain purpose... (not that this purpose is
>illegal. I have no idea if it is or isn't. I'm not an armchair lawyer.)

Yes you are, Parker, and you're restating, word for word, the same
lame tired arguments you've repeated in your stupid kooksoots for the
last 4 years, from the gun and car analogies, to "a domain name lets
you control a website" to "a domain name and a website hosting account
are the same thing", to "it's illegal to point a domain name or loan
it to somebody". Give it up, einstein.
>> I alerted the courts to his lies, but didn't pursue any remedy because
>> I wanted to see how far he'd take the lie, which now has included the
>> Court of Appeals.
>
>Well... are they lies?

Not the lies I was talking about, and that's a lame attempt at
misdirection, Parker. I was talking about your lies about knowing I
wasn't the author of the FAQ. I proved you knew I wasn't the author,
but you continued to argue I was and accused me of it in every
kooksoot. That's the lie told under penalty of perjury. Another basis
for sanctions. I have you nailed dead bang. Live with it, gasoline
boy.
>You knew the site was being used for a specific
>purpose, you just said so. no, you aren't the author, perhaps. But you
>are aiding the author... correct?

So, when 2600.com pointed a domain name at the Ford corporate site,
they were aiding Ford? Funny that Ford tried to sue them to stop them
from pointing the domain name there. Yep, you make absolutely zero
sense, Parker. I included that case in the complaint response to your
last kooksoot, Parker, Ford versus 2600.com. Can't you read? Duh,
einstein.
>> Now, his lies, combined with other problems he created for himself,
>> and which he only made worse when the defendants let him carry this
>> fantasy out to its conclusion, he's ripe for several motions. One is a
>> for costs, one is for pre-filing restriction, and one is for
>> sanctions. Also, he has submitted several false accusations against me
>> in the Delaware case, and that takes his spew off the Penn.
>> reservation and into the realm of multiple jurisdictions. The
>> principle in Griffis v. Luban (SCOTUS, 2003) doesn't apply any longer.
>> Jurisdiction can now be pled in Miss.
>
>Well, if true... have at it. As I said, I'm not an armchair lawyer. I'm
>just a guy that was/is curious over the fact that somehow Gordon
>discovered your existance without you supposedly ever having any contact
>or involvement wiht anything involving him.

Bullshit, why don't you drop the "I'm just a guy..." jibberish? Do you
think, after you've outed yourself with half a dozen slips in the last
two messages, that anybody doesn't know who you are? Get a clue
matchboy, everybody is reading the same content and knows what's been
said and what hasn't.

I never said I never had "any contact or involvement wiht anything
involving him."

In fact, you quoted my statement above...
> "That is the reason the Ray-Gordon.com domain name ended up pointing to
>a web site that hosted the RayFAQ. I looked at the site only briefly and it
> was something I agreed with in principle, so I left it pointing there."

Now, you lie about what I said when you've quoted the actual
statement. Only you're that terminally stupid, Parker. That's another
character flaw you have that you can't seem to get a handle on. It's a
"tell", just like your repeating lies under new names, lies that only
you tell. Gee, GRP, we'd never know it was you.
>> I was asked, this past Monday night by a local judge, to keep the
>> pressure on the school principal, the school board and the school
>> security force to try and keep teens from drinking and driving through
>> the neighborhood. I thoroughly intend to do that, as my house is fifty
>> feet from the high school property and the noise of beer parties at
>> 1:00 am in the lot [the city has an under 18 curfew of 12:00 midnight]
>> has many people who live across the street from the school upset and
>> mad as hell.
>
>Have fun, deputy. Are you still running for mayor, then? I haven't
>bothered to recheck the site.

Ah, so now we see you've had contact with someone in the city.
Jurisdiction, Parker, jurisdiction. It's an amazing thing and one you
have little concept or understanding of. Like when you publicly
claimed to have talked to somebody at my former employer's office.
Jurisdiction, Parker.
How would I know you've had contact with anyone in my federal
district? Think about it, geenooos, if your one or two brain cells can
handle the workload.
>> Given your predilection for advocating whatever defies conventional
>> norms of society [strange, Gordon Roy Parker does exactly the same
>> thing], I am not surprised at the way you react to my stance on teen
>> drinking on school property.
>
>Can you prove it is teens? If so... why haven't you given this evidence
>to the proper authorities? After all... my knowledge is that no one under
>the age of 18 is permitted to drink alcohol anywhere in the US. If you
>have evidence that it is teens... then you should be calling the police
>department, right? It's your civic duty. Why harrass the mayor, the
>school principal, or other such folks. It's a criminal matter for the
>police. Shouldn't you be complaining to the police, instead?

Again, it's interesting you've spent so much time tracking my personal
causes, so much you know things that aren't on the website you looked
at. Again, Parker, jurisdiction. I know why and how you THINK you know
those things, Parker. You'll find out how I know soon enough.
>> But, if you want to keep your "credibility", it would help if you
>> stuck to the truth once and a while, especially when the real truth is
>> easy for other to check and see how much muck is being spewed.
>
>Well... if and when you win your bid for election to mayor, perhaps you
>can present your evidence for the teens drinking on school grounds to the
>police. Perhaps some former principal or such wll be complaining about
>the new mayor's lack of evidence and action against the teens drinking on
>school property or whatever.
>
>But... jeez... wouldn't it be easier to just head to the VFW and join in
>the bingo games? Why rabble-rouse?

Why do you insist on socking new screen names, Parker? Do you think
repeating the same lame crap under new names makes it any better or
adds any truth to any of it?

-A domain name is still not the same as a hosting account
-pointing a domain name still doesn't allow control over the site site
it points to
-and you're still a lazy loser who's spent the last ten years mooching
off an elderly woman, driving her into bankruptcy, simply because
you're too damnned worthless to get out and get a job, Gordon Roy
Parker.

Look for that jurisdiction thing to come back and bite you in the ass.
Remember, civil suits are real property in this state and can be
seized to satisfy legal judgments. You were warned and you wouldn't
listen. How smart is that?

Need a loan for that gas, Parker?

Thom E. Geiger, Domain Name Owner
ChewOnThis.Org
(the Official GRP NewsLoon tracking website)
Ray-Gordon.com
Ray-Gordon.net
Newsloon.com

Don't buy anything from any business trying to use SLAPP lawsuits to
stop criticism of the company, owners, officers or products.

Guido Gump Parker blames a baseball bat death threat on his own mother, Penny "Skull Crusher" Parker:
>The "baseball bat" remark was made by my mom in response to a gymnastics
>groupie who harassed half of the national team, with help from several chat
>hosts and gymnastics coaches and hackers.
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