> Just how is that suicide thing going...?
>
> JJTj...
>
>
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> From: iteachhypno...@
aol.come4menow (Ray Gordon)
> Date: 16 Jan 2001 03:46:24 GMT
> Local: Mon, Jan 15 2001 10:46 pm
> Subject: That's It I'm Leaving (For GOOD)
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> Is everyone happy? They've finally WON.
>
> I sit here, contemplating why I even BOTHER living on this planet, thinking I'd
> be better off ending my life than tolerating this one, knowing DAMN well what
> happened out here the last five years, watching people tell one big LIE after
> another about me, neglecting to mention A LOT of truths which would shed proper
> light on the matter, never mentioning the political motivations people have for
> attacking me: gymnasts and their fans because I see the truth about USAG;
> people in alt.romance because I see the truth about women; people on
> rec.gambling.sports because I get in the way of their little scam games getting
> money out of desperate gamblers; people on alt.seduction.fast because they
> can't stand someone who sees through their hollow methods; people on
> alt.hypnosis who RAPE women and rely on it being believed that all hypnosis is
> self-hypnosis.
>
> For the past six years I have watched a cabal amass against me, unchecked by
> ISPs which are immune and which don't want it publicized that hackers have the
> run of their system, or how fragile people's privacy really is out here, and
> who cave into the volume of complaints from people with ulterior motives and
> louder mouths, again with full knowledge of what REALLY goes on out here, but
> with an incredible burden of time and expense to bother proving it, something
> that cannot be done out here.
>
> My desire to end my life -- one I have no plan of acting on lest anyone think
> I'm in any imminent danger -- is based on ONE thing: in the NEXT life, lies
> don't cut it. God knows all truths, and is not fooled by ANYONE, and yes, that
> includes me. I know what's in my heart, I know what I have seen and
> documented, and I know what is really going on, as do many of you. A few years
> back, someone posted an ad to a newsgroup claiming to be my MOTHER and a
> prostitute, and even posted her telephone number asking men to call her (she
> got calls because of this and didn't appreciate it). Someone recently went to
> JAIL over something similar, but of course people don't bother telling everyone
> that.
>
> A person would have to be a fool to want to exist on a planet which allows evil
> to thrive like this, and to have to deal with an internet which is totally
> unregulated and run by criminals, both in the ISP and user categories. I have
> watched lie after lie about me told, including that I am jobless, a welfare
> bum, that I have made death threats against children, that I am a pedophile, a
> child molster, a hacker, and probably a dozen more lies which I can't even
> remember right now. I have seen the people who have either made or witnessed
> these remarks act as if my responses were unprovoked, and can think only to how
> God sees both sides, knows what has happened, and is sitting in wait to pass
> proper judgment on everyone involved.
>
> I see a SICK society that thinks it can put one over on God, that there is no
> retribution in the next life, no accountability, and no need to fight for
> justice in this one. In the next life, I see a God who will set everyone
> straight and to whom their cries will fall on deaf ears. I can already hear
> people celebrating my exit (from USENET, that is), and frankly I do not care
> anymore. The people who drove me off here are not the ones who bother me, but
> the spectators who say "good decision" are. It is those smug little assholes
> for whom God's punishment will be the worst: the ones who could have spoken up,
> could have said something, but whose silence only cemented the false impression
> that the liars were willing to create.
>
> If anyone thinks censorship by harassment and bullying, as well as terrorism
> and extortion, is something to celebrate, let them. All I can say is that God
> is watching and throwing up at the sight of people who stand by and do nothing
> when a lynching is taking place. Contrary to popular belief, I have a life, a
> job, yet I do not share my successes, and recently there have been many, with
> anyone, out of fear that if it were known to others that the cabal would move
> its harassment of me offline to propogate its lies into my daily life. As
> those who are aware of what has happened to me out here have already accepted
> me, I have never felt it necessary to tell everyone I come into contact with a
> pile of lies and distortions which has accumulated against me over the years,
> or that any negative behavior on my part was almost entirely provoked by this
> horrid campaign.
>
> For my own well-being, I am in the process of systematically listing the names
> of everyone I consider responsible for this, in order, with specific references
> to their specific actions which have caused me to feel that way, and am locking
> the document away in a safe place. Such is my right as this is a free country.
> That people would care enough to monitor how long it took me to return here or
> whether or not I did, or cite some kind of problem if I did return, is so
> sickening that it defies description. I am very confident that if I were ever
> to end my life, and that all truths were known to OBJECTIVE observers, that
> they would not blame my decision for one moment, and would cast a very negative
> eye on those who continued to harass me, defame me, threaten me, and to do so
> in the most cowardly fashion possible -- online, behind anonymous posting
> identities, and in a group of dozens or even hundreds ganged up against ONE
> PERSON.
>
> A world that treats me in the manner in which I have been treated and then has
> the GALL to blame me when ignoring the true cause is not a world I get any joy
> from living in. A world which says that I could have avoided this problem
> simply by censoring my own free speech fails to acknoweldge that this creates
> an even larger problem in that people are no longer free to speak their minds,
> and I'm talking about simple truths like discrimination, child abuse in
> gymnastics, hypnosis abuse, or that men who practice speed seduction may be
> doing something wrong.
>
> They say silence speaks volumes. Well then, listen to mine, because it's going
> to get LOUDER and LOUDER as more and more time passes and you realize that I'm
> really not coming back this time. Should I get any more depressed, maybe one
> day I'll say that to the entire world and just leave the planet altogether, and
> then people can talk about how they had nothing to do with it and how sorry
> they felt.
>
> I open this side of myself as a warning to those who think the internet allows
> them to speak freely: it does not. It is nothing more than a grade-school
> popularity contest where popularity trumps truth, bullying trumps justice, and
> where people like to tell others what information out here is good and bad,
> without regard to its intrinsic quality or that those doing the "informing" may
> not know themselves what is correct.
>
> I leave this cesspool to all of you so that you can blame someone else the next
> time a flame war breaks out, or the next time someone says something I have
> already said, with a stern warning that anyone who accuses someone of being me
> without absolute proof and who tries to pick open this wound will be damaging
> and harming me with a lie.
>
> I watched as a book which I had sold several hundred copies of and made a
> decent income from in a year, with positive reviews from those who were not
> biased or who had ulterior motives, attacked, scanned and put on a website for
> free in violation of my copyright, and forcing me to the point where I had to
> GIVE it away, along with another book, so that people could get the information
> without having to worry about whether or not the defamation they heard about me
> was true. That book is read by hundreds of people a WEEK now, and influencing
> their love lives in a positive way.
>
> As I have said before when I left, there will be NO forgiveness unless those
> who are withholding information which would shed proper light on this come
> clean with that information to me privately (hey, everyone has my contact
> information so they know what to do), but not anonymously.....don't tell me
> you're on my side or tell me anything you aren't willing to tell the whole
> world. I already know the truth and hearing it from someone who wants to clear
> their conscience and tell me but who lacks the courage to go public is no
> friend of mine and needs to find another way to feel better about themselves.
> Failure to speak up might just cause a suicide sometime down the road, you
> never know......as of now I plod along, but barely.......if you want that on
> your conscience, be my guest, but hey who has a conscience anymore.
>
> Blame me all you want, frankly I do not care. God has the truth, I have it,
> and some of you have it. When people are done attacking this post that truth
> will surface somehow, someway. Again, it's not my concern. I've fought this
> crap longer than any reasonable human being can be expected to, and for my
> efforts I have had nothing but people attempting to destroy me.
>
> If it's too much to ask to rebuild the good parts of my life in peace, I can
> exit the planet at any time. I'd suggest no one fuck with me from this point
> forward.
>
> Ray Gordon, Net
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>
>> I go online as a female secretary looking for work again.
>> Idiot lawyer solicits me for a job.
>> Gives me his REAL name.
>> His pic.
>> The name of his firm.
>> The name of the previous secretary he "wore out" before firing her.
>> This is a very good-looking man. Very successful.
>> Nothing makes me suicidal more quickly than to see this up front.
>> I believe suicide should be a fundamental legal right.
>> Suicide on demand.
>> My body, my choice.
>> A lawsuit can make that a reality. If I win, EVERY person gets the
>> right to end their lives at any time for any reason.
