Actually, "Speeding" was threatened off this group by a supposed "loose
cannon" but was also harassed by the shills when he didn't play along with
their "astroturfing."

Fact is, those who speak out against the SCAM that the sedeuction community
has become wind up targeted, and many others wind up not saying anything in
the first place, out of fear.

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On Jul 12, 12:52 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:

I call bullshit.

Speeding left the group after making statements that came back to
haunt him. He at least had the ability to be embarrassed, unlike you
fr00t l00p.

He was never "harassed," he just got the same treatment you get for
posting similarly asinine statements.

Of course, he wasn't a malignant narcissist with delusions of adequacy
either.

You're a complete moron.

The newsloon doesn't define "loose cannnon", and provides no evidence
whatsoever of the above claim.

He provides no evidence of this claim either.

Numerous claims here, and no evidence provided for any of them. That's why
he's a newsloon.

Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot" schreef:

Name the shills Ray, shouldn't be that hard for you.

Unlike you, Speeding learned.
Speeding had the guts to post a picture.
Speeding could, unlike you, post stuff that would made sense (if someone
took the time to read them). Doesn't mean it was always accurate, but
they would make sense.

Speeding created his own online lair which was quite successful.

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