On Feb 10, 2:55Â pm, dman
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>>> On Feb 10, 3:18 am, dman
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>>> On Feb 10, 4:37 pm, HC
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>>>> On Feb 9, 9:07 pm, dman
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>>>>> On Feb 10, 2:42 pm, HC
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>>>>>> On Feb 9, 8:03 pm, dman
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>>>>>>> On Feb 10, 1:40 pm, HC
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>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 7:31�pm, dman
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>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>> always fucking them at the bar, at a public toilet,
>
>>>>>>>> Public toilet?
>
>>>>>>>> LOL! I think I'd rather masturbate. Â ;-)
>
>>>>>>>> Man, I'm glad I'm married.
>
>>>>>>> Don't knock it until you have tried it. For instance one of the places
>>>>>>> I had sex last night was in the ladies bathroom at Burger King at
>>>>>>> about 2am in the morning.
>
>>>>>> I dunno, is it my age showing here with this??
>
>>>>> Possibly?
>
>>>> I've been thinking about it . . . it's not an age thing.
>
>>>> Fucking in a Burger King bathroom is disgusting.
>
>>>>> I just don't have this "germy fear".
>
>>>> I don't have a "germy fear" either, fucking in a Burger King bathroom
>>>> is disgusting.
>
>>>>> Sure there are some
>>>>> places I wouldn't touch for purposes of fucking, like some low
>>>>> maintained toilet in the remote outback.
>
>>>> Why not, because *that's* disgusting?
>
>>> I'm imaging here a long drop you smell from a 100m away, that even
>>> though it is a long drop it has overflowed and the toilet is sitting
>>> in a flooded state of mess half a foot deep. Add in swarms of flies
>>> etc and you starting to get the picture.
>
>>> Yes, *that* would be disgusting.
>
>> With respect . . . and I'm not being sarcastic . . . let's get
>> something straight please. I'm recognizing the difference between a
>> bathroom in the outback and a public bathroom that's relatively
>> maintained, and clearly recognized the difference before you presented
>> me with that stunning visualization of the conditions of the bathrooms
>> in the "outback."
>
>> But what you failed to address (you just sort of skipped right over
>> that part) was that the public toilet you were in most likely wasn't
>> cleaned for HOURS prior to you getting there at 2am. I get it. The
>> toilets aren't overflowing, and maybe it doesn't have the faint smell
>> of urine in the air, I'll give you that maybe the bathroom *looked*
>> clean. It wasn't. Let me ask you this . . . would you take your
>> whopper with cheese hold the pickles hold the lettuce special orders
>> don't upset us, and set up on the water tank in a stall and enjoy your
>> meal there? Would *that* be disgusting to you?
>
> I'm guessing you have never had sex in a toilet?
You're guessing correctly.
I do on occasion empty my bowels in a toilet, however, but no, can't
say I ever actually had sex IN a toilet, if that makes you feel any
better.
I think one of the issues here with our disagreement, but far from
bringing us to agreement, is in the terms we're using. Here in the
good 'ole USA, the toilet is the actual device that you relieve
yourself into, not the room itself, that would be the bathroom (or
rest room, or lavoratry I suppose).
And no, I never had sex in a public bathroom, either.
> Even so I fully
> expected you could at least imagine the functional details of how it
> would go down, but I'll explain it anyway: basically it is generally
> exactly the same as sex anywhere else done while standing up. All the
> bathroom stall does is provides us with four walls of privacy. Nothing
> disgusting or unusual at all about that,
Trust me, at the very least, having sex in a Burger King bathroom is
going to be to most people unusual AT BEST!
> is not like we are doing it
> in the toilet bowl itself.
>
Ya know, I hadn't thought of that, standing up. It's still gross. I
mean the whole idea of a Burger King bathroom. And let me add, it's
LESS gross if this was a one shot deal, just sorta worked out that
way, one drunkin night, hey, I can be impulsive, but the way you made
it sound with your opening statements (and still do) was that this was
one of four places available for you to have sex. Sorry, but it's just
not an option for me under any circumstances.
>> Me thinks you're
>> taking "have it your way" to a whole new level that was never intended
>> by Burger King Inc.
>
> hahaha, I should let them know about a new advertising potential! ;-)
>
>
Ohhh, you liked that did ya . . . I gotta million of 'em! ;-)
>
>>>>> But in general most (but not
>>>>> all) bathrooms in the city are good to go.
>
>>>> Let's not even get into the lack of respect (*that's* an age thing)
>>>> for the other Burger King patrons that maybe need to use the bathroom
>>>> and maybe - just maybe - don't want to see you and some skank getting
>>>> it on, but to lend you some vital data . . . ok, maybe the public
>>>> toilet is clean *after* somebdy cleans it, but you have/had  no idea
>>>> what went on in that place between that occurance and when you got
>>>> there, In fact, by 2 am I'd say there was a lot of pissing and
>>>> shitting and lord knows whatever else going on in that public toilet
>>>> since it's last douching.
>
>>> I avoid ones that are flooded/blocked/etc or otherwise a genuine mess,
>>> but if it is in a good state there is no reason to not go for it.
>
>> Look, you're unlikely to get HIV from it, but would you like the long
>> list or the short list of the non STD-type diseases you open yourself
>> (and your woman) up to by getting down in a public toilet? I'm
>> convinced that you think I'm being  a wise ass here with this, and
>> that I'm just busting on you. I'm not. It really is disgusting. Now I
>> know there are cultural differences between where you are on the other
>> side of the world and where I am here in the states. But from what I
>> know, and no, I've never had the opportunity to travel to and visit
>> your country (would love to actually one day), where you are is
>> probably very similar to where I am with regards to Burger King. I'm
>> assuming there isn't a bathroom attendant stationed in the public
>> toilet handing you towels to wipe the water off your hands after you
>> wash them, or with bottle of cologne to dole out, like you find in
>> some of the nicer clubs. Fact is, there are gaps in the maintenance,
>> and even WHEN maintained (cleaned) whose doing the cleaning? Likley a
>> minimum age worker that wants to be ANYWHERE BUT where he/she is at
>> the  moment that they get the unenviable task of having to clean the
>> bathroom. How good of a job do you think the bathroom cleaner at
>> Burger King does? I can tell you right now, that that bathroom is
>> NEVER on the same level of cleanliness and hygeine, even immediately
>> after it's "cleaned" that say the bathroom in my house is.
>
> A surprising thought just struck me, hadn't occurred to me as
> possibility but... are you one of those people who would go to BK and
> have a meal there but never use their bathroom?
Never? No, not never. Only if absolutely necessary.
> Waiting until you have
> got back home instead, like that guy in American Pie who wouldn't ever
> use the school bathroom.
>
This is getting ridiculous. I'll give it to ya straight . . . I'm not
that particular where I urinate, but if I have to move my bowels, I
get much more particular. I would NEVER do that in a BK bathroom
unless I absolutely definitely had to. And even then, I would be much
more apt to drive somewhere else (if home was too far away) like maybe
a hotel lobby's bathroom, or better yet a hospital's bathroom. So I'm
thinking to myself, this guy is having sex in a place I wouldn't even
take a shit. Get it?
> And yes, NZ is pretty similar to USA in that respect with BK. I'll bet
> BK is almost virtually the same the whole world over.
>
>>>>> And also generally the
>>>>> girls are all good with it too,
>
>>>> Are you drugging these girls? What kind of a skank will get picked up
>>>> and let somebody fuck 'em in a Burger King bathroom?
>
>>> I don't do drugs, they are a waste of money and illegal.
>
>> OK . . . I was sort of being facetious with that comment, but in a
>> sense, ya know, you *are* drugging them, I'm assuming there's alcohol
>> involved (legal drug), and no, let me save you the typing, I'm not
>> implying that you're forcing them to drink. Â I mean how else are ya
>> gonna get any woman of any quality at all to get down on her knees in
>> the stall of a burger king bathroom, let alone allow herself to be
>> propped up on the toilet seat with her panties down around her ankles?
>
> She brought alcohol for me, perhaps she was trying to "drug" me? Yeah,
> I'm a being a bit facetious with that comment too. But it happens, and
> has happened to me.
>
>> And furthermore, my wife informs me that ladies room is likely in as
>> worse shape as the mens room, as women *usualy* don't sit they squat,
>> because they don't want to touch the toilet seat in the public toilet,
>> so there's ummmm, let's call it spray, all over the seats (in some
>> cases). Just because that spray dried up and ya don't see it, doesn't
>> mean the residue isn't still there.
>
> Did I say I was sitting on the toilet seat?! Nope, even so...
> consider this option: putting the lid down (actually makes it a lot
> better for sex, without the dip down of the seat with the hole) and
> even leaving my jeans on so I'm not sitting with my bare arse (only
> need the fly to be undone).
>
Most BK bathrooms that I've been in don't have lids on the toilets,
just a seat.
>>> As for calling a girl a skank.... Â hmmm... I suspect we have a bit of
>>> disconnect here in the way we each see the world.
>
>> No, I disagree. It's not because of the different way we see the
>> world, she's not a skank because she fucks a lot. Sorry, but if she's
>> fucking in a stall in a Burger King bathroom, she's a skank.
>
> Riiiite... that makes me a skank too.
>
Technically, yes. But there's probably a different word for it, you
being male.
> And of course she would not be a skank because she has had sex with a
> lot of guys, I'm her first.
>
As I previously stated, the term skank, by my terms, has nothing to do
with the frequency in which she has sex, it's all about the hygeine.
Ya know, hygeine isn't a bad word. There is nothing OCD about somebody
that maintains good hygeine. If a chick is willing to fuck in a BK
bathroom, I would DEFINITELY be questioning her hygiene. Bad female
hygeine = skank. And it has nothing to do with what she looks like,
she could be a hottie and also be a skank.
>>>>> hell the thrill of it probably turns
>>>>> them more on too.
>
>>>> I wouldn't be arguing with you if we were talking about a secluded
>>>> spot in the park, or on the beach, or any other similar "public" place
>>>> at 2am, but a PUBLIC TOILET is just disgusting. Where is your self
>>>> respect . . . fuck that, where is this woman's self respect?
>
>>> I don't see what any of this has to do with "self respect".
>
>> Well, me personally, I'd be embarrassed as hell to have it be known
>> that I PU women and take 'em to the public toilet at Burger King to
>> fuck 'em. I have self respect.
>
>>> There is
>>> nothing inherently wrong in this,
>
>> 1) It's against the law (well here anyway, I dunno what the public
>> nudity/sex laws are in your country). Do you know who Paul Reubens is?
>> (Pee Wee Herman.) He was arrested for masturbating in a sex shop IN A
>> PRIVATE BOOTH where lonely men go to jerk off to peep shows. And that
>> was in a SEX ESTABLISHMENT, not a RESTAURANT.
>
> Ok, now that sounds stupid!
We disagree again. The law is the law. There's a reason for the law.
Has to do with keeping things sanitary and disease free. Yes, I do
agree that maybe there shouldn't be a law against jacking off in A
JACKOFF BOOTH, but there is.
> But america is full of stupid things like
> that happening with their laws.
>
> I've never heard of that happening in NZ. Admittedly was silly going
> into the women's bathroom,
Silly? Dude, I can't imagine there'd be too many women walking into a
WOMAN'S public bathroom, and seeing or hearing a MAN in there, much
less a man banging a chick, and not minding. That's where my comments
about removing teeth from ones head came into play. That's also where
my comments about respecting others came into this. You just don't
realize the seriousness of it all because you're a happy go lucky kid,
inebriated and out on the town having a good time. It's all fun and
games until some woman accuses you of PEEPING or maybe something more
serious. And I don't mean the chick you're banging, I mean one of the
other custmers in the restaurant. Get yourself arrested and spend a
night in jail over something like this, and then face a fine that with
your limited finances will have to be paid and I think you'll start to
understand just how serious it is. And don't think that won't
eventually happen to you if you make a habit out of being found in
WOMAN'S bathrooms.
> but she dragged me in there.
YOU'RE the PUA. You're supposed to be dragging HER.
> But not
> something I'd expect to go to court over, is of trival importance.
>
>
Oh, I believe you wouldn't expect that, but why do you think it's NOT
probable that another person is going to complain to the store manager
and have the police called? Are you a "minute man?" The cops could
conceivably get there and YOU'D STILL BE THERE, possibly with your fly
open! MY GOD how embarrassing would THAT be? And then the arrest, and
then the booking, and then the court appearance, and then the
fine . . .
>
>> 2) It's dirty, not as in sexy dirty, but as in disease dirty.
>
You keep leaping over the disease issues.
>> 3) You're not making a porno movie, you are not in a sex club, hell it
>> ain't even a PU joint, it's a RESTAURANT where people eat. And you're
>> getting naked or somehwat naked and having sex there, in public.
>
> Not in public if nobody can see you or knows about it.
>
OK, you're in a stall, think nobody knows you're there? How quiet are
you? Do you sound like a woman? Or would it be OBVIOUS if you were
heard by another female BK patron, that THERE'S A MAN IN THE LADIES
ROOM! Here's another angle . . . somebody walks in and sees two sets
of feet under the door, and thinks DRUG USE at 2am. There are other
scenarios as well . . .
>> 4) YOU might think that the other patrons don't care (and some might
>> not) but I gotta tell ya, if my wife and I were in a Burger King, and
>> she had to use the bathroom, and entered the bathroom, and then ran
>> out and told me she can't use the bathroom because YOU were in there
>> with your pants at your ankles and your shlong hanging out, you might
>> not make it home that night with all your teeth in your head. At the
>> very least I'd call the cops and try to have you arrested, if I didn't
>> know you. (If I knew you, I'd probably try and discuss it with you and
>> counsel you instead.)
>
> As I explained before, nobody sees.
>
Dude, they hear you, they know you're there. You're gonna get hassled
big time one night.
>>> unless you are a Bible fanatic who
>>> believes any kind of sex before marriage is wrong. Which I'm sure you
>>> are not.
>
>> You are correct, I am not. We're not talking religious beliefs here,
>> we're talking about a public toilet. And I'm no prude either, I've had
>> sex in some pretty strange places, but I would *never* subject
>> somebody else without their consent, to have to watch or be a part of
>> it in any way, EVEN if I found it a turn on to do so.
>
> Nobody was watching or being part of it!!
>
You're not getting it. There are two issues here, the cleanliness
issue, and the respect issue. You're on the losing end of both of
those arguments. Nobody's watching, you say, do you really think
nobody knows there's a man in the ladies room? Somebody's gonna
complain, and then the ball gets rolling and its just a matter of how
lucky you get as to what kind of penalty you pay. Maybe you just get
thrown out of the restaurant, no biggie. But eventually, if you press
your luck, the penalty will be higher.
>
>
>>>>>> I wouldn't even take a leak in a Burger King bathroom. OK, maybe, if I
>>>>>> had to, but I would try not to touch anything. In fact I'd flush, if I
>>>>>> flushed at all, with the shoe covered foot.
>
>>>>>> Actually, dman, now that I think of it, it's because of guys like
>>>>>> you! ;-)
>
>>>>> I'm a tidy kiwi, I took away my used condoms with me. :)
>
>>>> Why don't you send them to the Smithsonian??
>
>>> hahhahaha
>
>>> ummm... Â perhaps I'm a NZer not an American? Â Adam Smith doesn't mean
>>> anything to NZers. But we have Te Papa instead.
>
>> Again, you missed the point, but I'll bear that burden this time, I
>> should have been more clear.
>
>> WHY THE FUCK DID YOU TAKE THE USED CONDOMS WITH YOU????
>
>> Ummm, wouldn't flushing them down the toilet when you were done be a
>> better plan? I mean what did you do with them, did you put them in
>> your pocket? Did you wrap them in a napkin and give them to your
>> "lady" to take home as a souvenir?
>
> Condoms sometimes block toilets I've heard,
Imagine that! You have more consideration for the plumbing at a Burger
King than you do for the female customers at the Burger King that
might need to use the PUBLIC BATHROOM!
> I chucked them in to the
> first rubbish bin I saw on the way out.
>
I bet the guy that empties the trash will be glad to know that. ;-)
>>>>>>> Was fucking hot and funny as hell too! ;)
>
>>>>>> Oh I'm sure it was funny as hell, lol! Hey, of your four options,
>>>>>> here's some free advice: Â HER PLACE!
>
>>>>> ah yes, I did that too. My view however is why would I want to miss
>>>>> out on having sex at all the other places?
>
>>>> I don't know, filth? Disease? Disgust?
>
>>> Disgust comes from a disconnect between your own reality and what is
>>> presented to you, that then creates an automatic internal feeling
>>> within you towards it. But this is just an emotion you have created,
>>> not an inherent trait.
>
>> Yeah, disgust. An emotion. That I myself have created in my mind. You
>> are correct. What about disease? You leapt right over that.
>
>>>>> Because I don't want to not
>>>>> have sex! lol
>
>>>> Do you not have any self control? And did it ever occur to you that
>>>> the fucking might even be BETTER if you make her wait a little longer?
>
>>>>> Plus by doing it in the ladies restroom I get to overhear the inane
>>>>> conversations the other girls have with each other while in the
>>>>> bathroom. *rolls eyes*
>
>>>> OK, fine. I just find that to be highly disrespectful to the "other
>>>> girls."
>
>>>> Unless you have permission and consent from *all* the other people in
>>>> the room, public toliet or public library same thing, maybe you should
>>>> keep your clothes on in public, no?
>
>>> Hey, I have a better idea. Why don't I go get permission from ALL the
>>> people in the entire world before I am "allowed" to have sex?
>
>> Why would you want to do that? That's the most ridiculous counter
>> argument I have ever read. We are not talking about "having sex." We
>> are talking about subjecting other, otherwise normal people to YOU
>> having sex in a place where they've come to EAT FOOD.
>
>>> I'll
>>> make sure I ask nicely in a sugar tone voice, with one knee on the
>>> ground, a bowed head, and my cap in hand. ;-)
>
>> Sarcasm noted. I reckon that's because you don't have a legitimate
>> counter argument to my legitimate argument.
>
> Nah, I'm more pointing out the silliness of asking people for
> permission for such a thing as simply having sex.
And like a 747 flying in the sky, the point has gone zooming over your
head once again. You don't need permission to have sex (except of
course from the person you're having it with). If as a male, BEING in
a ladies room is not permissable, how in the hell could being in the
ladies room HAVING SEX be??
Ahhh, youth . . . I was young and stupid once . . . (relax, I'm not
calling you stupid, it's just a saying)
