"The "PUA methods" no longer work (even the VH-1 show had to be
faked), so
they do what they can to flame and deflect. "

You know something? Since I've been in this group I've not seen much
else at ALL other than flaming, name calling, shots below the belt and
bitter prick-waving... but I've got one for ya'... I went out the
night before last... to a bar... without even the money to drink...
(Did that at home before hand... but we'll get to that) and I used the
mystery method to the best of my current level of skill... do you know
what happened? 3 @closes, 2 N-closes and about 5 drinks bought for me
throughout the night. I guess this method's too mainstream to
work.... you obviously are forgetting the fundamentals... the mystery
method employs manipulation and control of the social dynamics at work
in a room... have the social dynamics changed? I think not. sure, if
you indicate like crazy, use the same stock openers and lines from the
show... (Which, not for nothing, I've only seen 2 episodes of...
ever.) you may run into some people who catch on... what do you do
then? WORK YOUR GAME. I didn't come here to listen to you asses (some
company excluded... you know who you are.) flame the system that I AM
using successfully. I came here to deal with other pua's with a higher
skill level than my own so that I had a useful forum in which to
bounce ideas around, get some critique on my methods and get better at
this game. Where's THAT community at? On that note, where are the
pua's that aren't so bitter caught up in this stupid cockfight that
they're still playing the game? If you EVER WERE a pua... you're
reducing yourself back to computer geek. Think about that one for a
second.

So... I'm putting out the call... I'm looking for pua's that are
willing to actually just chill and discuss the game, drama-free. IF
anyone's interested, email me at xrenavatiox@yahoo.com Otherwise...
stop wasting everyone's time.

Have a nice day.

~~>Val<~~