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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Sep 28, 2007 05:18
Looks like Mystery left nothing to chance with his "method." The women at
the "club" on the VH-1 show "The Pickup Artist" were PAID TARGETS.
Specifically, the CLUB paid the women bewteen $120-150 to film, in "club
funny money," and VH-1 had them sign a separate waiver that said they
weren't being compensated. The reason the women started speaking out is
that VH-1 put the words "there are NO ACTORS in this club" over the scenes,
thus destroying the TV credit they thought they'd be getting.
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http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy
Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
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This group will be restricted to 5,000 members. All new theory from the
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Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
have been rendered worthless through mainstream media exposure. It really
is game over for community material. Beware of Milli Vanilli gurus who
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Author: OdiousOdious Date: Sep 28, 2007 07:38
"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:WOWdnadtk9yrbGHbnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@pghconnect.com...> Looks like Mystery left nothing to chance with his "method." The women at
> the "club" on the VH-1 show "The Pickup Artist" were PAID TARGETS.
>
> Specifically, the CLUB paid the women bewteen $120-150 to film, in "club
> funny money," and VH-1 had them sign a separate waiver that said they
> weren't being compensated. The reason the women started speaking out is
> that VH-1 put the words "there are NO ACTORS in this club" over the
> scenes, thus destroying the TV credit they thought they'd be getting.
>
>
Says who? Cite a name. Repeating tolls posted to the VH1 boards isn't
proof.
And now you're claiming they weren't even paid in cash, but club bucks?
LOL!!
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Sep 28, 2007 07:53
>> Specifically, the CLUB paid the women bewteen $120-150 to film, in "club
>> funny money," and VH-1 had them sign a separate waiver that said they
>> weren't being compensated. The reason the women started speaking out is
>> that VH-1 put the words "there are NO ACTORS in this club" over the
>> scenes, thus destroying the TV credit they thought they'd be getting.
>>
>>
>
> Says who? Cite a name. Repeating tolls posted to the VH1 boards isn't
> proof.
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Author: HCHC Date: Sep 28, 2007 08:04
On Sep 28, 10:53?am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:>>> Specifically, the CLUB paid the women bewteen $120-150 to film, in "club
>>> funny money," and VH-1 had them sign a separate waiver that said they
>>> weren't being compensated. The reason the women started speaking out is
>>> that VH-1 put the words "there are NO ACTORS in this club" over the
>>> scenes, thus destroying the TV credit they thought they'd be getting.
>
>> Says who? Cite a name. Repeating tolls posted to the VH1 boards isn't
>> proof.
>
> Odiot repeats any crap he reads on the internet when it suits him.
>
> I'm making a claim where in court the burden of proof would be on me. Very
> easy for the other side to win if it's false.
Win what, pauper?
Your FALSE accusation would result in the other party accruing
expenses that when proven right, would be ordered to be
reimbursed . . . by YOU.
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Author: fakeobamafakeobama Date: Sep 28, 2007 12:44
On Sep 28, 5:18 am, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:> Looks like Mystery left nothing to chance with his "method." The women at
> the "club" on the VH-1 show "The Pickup Artist" were PAID TARGETS.
>
> Specifically, the CLUB paid the women bewteen $120-150 to film, in "club
> funny money," and VH-1 had them sign a separate waiver that said they
> weren't being compensated. The reason the women started speaking out is
> that VH-1 put the words "there are NO ACTORS in this club"
A person who is coached is markedly different than an actor. Even if
it's the case, who cares? It's a TV show with production values that
need to be protected and from what I saw on that "moving target"
segment, dispensed at least some solid advice for dweebs and judging
by the numbers, was very successful at its primary objective of
entertaining audiences.
That's why they don't use live TV very much. If, say, for example,
Martha Stewart fucks up a batch of pumpkin soufl
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Author: An Old FriendAn Old Friend Date: Sep 28, 2007 13:21
In article <38KdnTbUQ6nriGDbnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@ pghconnect.com>,
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" cybersheet.com> wrote:
>>> Specifically, the CLUB paid the women bewteen $120-150 to film, in
>>> "club funny money,"
Changing the story again? Doesn't help your credibility. Perhaps you
need more reliable and accurate sources.
>>> and VH-1 had them sign a separate waiver that said they weren't
>>> being compensated.
And I am sure you can produce a copy of this so-called "waiver" and
post it on your website. Any one of the actors would probably be more
than willing to scan and make a .pdf of their waiver and give you
permission to post it on your self-abandoned blog or your website.
That is, if they actually existed.
>>> The reason the women started speaking out is that VH-1 put the
>>> words "there are NO ACTORS in this club" over the scenes, thus
>>> destroying the TV credit they thought they'd be getting.
>> Says who? Cite a name. Repeating tolls posted to the VH1 boards
>> isn't proof.
> Odious repeats any crap he reads on the internet when it suits him.
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Author: MeklarMeklar Date: Sep 28, 2007 13:25
On Sep 28, 5:18 am, "Ray Gordon, gullibaloon" cybersheet.com>
wrote:> Specifically, the CLUB paid the women bewteen $120-150 to film, in "club
> funny money," and VH-1 had them sign a separate waiver that said they
> weren't being compensated. The reason the women started speaking out is
> that VH-1 put the words "there are NO ACTORS in this club" over the scenes,
> thus destroying the TV credit they thought they'd be getting.
>
Unless an individual is in the Screen Actors Guild (SAG) then they are
not licensed actors.
Given that they were paid in credit by the club and not by VH-1
directly, and if they are not SAG licensed, then they are not
considered actors. Thus the tag line is correct and they should not
expect TV credit as actors.
If it had said "No one was compensated for their appearance in this
show" then they would have been lying. As it is the statement is
correct.
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Sep 28, 2007 14:27
>Even if it's the case, who cares?
To the extent they market how-to products or self-help, it's relevant. To
the extent it's entertainment, or "staged" (it can still be sort of real as
women have limits), of course the show must go on.
--
Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy
Ray's new "Project 5000" is here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/project-5000
This group will be restricted to 5,000 members. All new theory from the
creator of the PIVOT!
Don't rely on overexposed, mass-marketed commercial seduction methods which
have been rendered worthless through mainstream media exposure. It really
is game over for community material. Beware of Milli Vanilli gurus who
stole their ideas from others!
http://moderncaveman.typepad.com
The Official Ray Gordon Blog
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Author: Krus T. OlfardKrus T. Olfard Date: Sep 28, 2007 14:34
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" cybersheet.com> wrote in
news:WOWdnadtk9yrbGHbnZ2dnUVZ_iydnZ2d@pghconnect.com:
> Looks like Mystery left nothing to chance with his "method." The
> women at the "club" on the VH-1 show "The Pickup Artist" were PAID
> TARGETS.
>
> Specifically, the CLUB paid the women bewteen $120-150 to film, in
> "club funny money," and VH-1 had them sign a separate waiver that said
> they weren't being compensated. The reason the women started speaking
> out is that VH-1 put the words "there are NO ACTORS in this club" over
> the scenes, thus destroying the TV credit they thought they'd be
> getting.
>
>
Prove it.
I do realize that you can't do that but since you made the claim it is up
to you to provide verifiable evidence of your claim. If you do not have
that verifiable evidence and cannot show it then you are lying.
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Author: Krus T. OlfardKrus T. Olfard Date: Sep 28, 2007 14:36
gordon roy parker of the fairfax dump, creator of lies and other
stupidities, whined:
>
> I'm making a claim where in court the burden of proof would be on me.
> Very easy for the other side to win if it's false.
>
>
No, asshole, you are LYING!
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