>since anything I try she might know about -

>Wanted to see if they would re-ignite
>the conversation, but nothing, definitely need to improve my game here.

> Scruff wrote:
>

>> Hello lads,
>>
>> Now I have the bunker to myself since my boss is away, i've got the
>> chance to fill you all in on a little activity from last weekend.
>>
>> I got an email from a dude named TovRa, who's been lurking for a
>> little while on uASF, asking me if I fancied meeting up in London
>> sometime to go sarging and practice our stuff. I said I'd be up for
>> it, but I wanted to get to know a little more about him before I met
>> him just to make sure that he wasn't some weirdo. So I stalked him
>> for a few days.
>>
>> Only joking.
>>
>> He seemed cool over the emails, perhaps a little shy maybe, saying that
>> he's been building his game for a while but still hadn't the
>> confidence to approach, but that he wanted to learn and wanted to get a
>> few guys together and start building a little London community to go
>> out and about with. I was well up for the idea and we agreed to meet in
>> Old Street and sarge Hoxton.
>>
>> Arrived at Old Street Underground station a little early and did a few
>> warm up approaches on the HBs around there (boy! There were some proper
>> HBs! Hot as!). I wasn't totally feeling 100%% - drained from the 2
>> previous nights and had a cold, so didn't get further than building
>> some rapport and having a laugh.
>>
>> TovRa arrived - I knew it was him cos he was wearing white trainers
>> with bright orange laces, exactly like he described - obvious
>> peacocking but I thought looked pretty cool. We head over to a bar he
>> knows for a chat and get to know you session before we sarge. Good guy
>> I thought, obviously no shyness problems around other guys as we had a
>> good laugh and a joke, all very relaxed. TovRa tells me he's been
>> working on his style and poise and you can tell, he's well spoken,
>> smiley, holds himself well and relaxed. He's got a list of things to
>> change about himself and he's like a machine at knocking them off one
>> by one and sticking to it.
>>
>> For anyone thinking of improving yourself, that's the way to do it.
>> Just go for it and never look back!
>>
>> We discussed what we wanted to try out and how we would do it before
>> hitting the bars. Hit the first bar, called legion and its pretty
>> funky, I like it. TovRa gets awesome social proof from the bouncer who
>> he obviously knows quite well. Awesome stuff, looks good. TovRa has
>> taken up just about every type of street dancing I've ever heard of
>> and the bouncer knows him from this.
>>
>> We get drinks and discuss who wants to do the first opener, since
>> TovRa's got a couple of problems with finding the confidence to
>> approach, I open the first set:
>>
>> Open with opinion opener on Speed Dating. Goes pretty well, we give a
>> time constraint and get their attention. 3 set. One HB 6.5/7, one 6,
>> one 5. I decide the 6 is my target cos she's wearing a short skirt
>> and high heels. That makes me happy ;)
>>
>> Goes well, keep the convo going using leading questions. I get them to
>> come up with a question to ask on a speed date (fantastic idea!) and
>> they ask, if we were an animal what would it be... goes really well,
>> plenty to chat about. Break into a routine based on what I had just
>> read on the board 'Our (Time) World'. Basically: 'if you could
>> change one thing in the past what would it be?' that works well
>> (thanks Coreyl). Its not quite the same, but based on.
>>
>> We're chatting for about 20 minutes, maybe more, all of us chiming
>> in. its going pretty well and I'm getting kino and good body language
>> from my target. TovRa gets some more utterly awesome social proof when
>> the bouncer comes down and slaps hands with him - the girls DDB!
>> Eventually the HB7 goes leaving the other two with us two. Think its
>> time to turn on the heat a little and get them sitting together. Then I
>> drop a steaming pile of shite (you are going to love this Gordon...).
>>
>> I attempt to run the 'Best Friends Test' and my target looks at me
>> and goes: "you've read the Game!"
>>
>> I'm like: quick thinking... "yeah, I'm about half
>> way through! You know it? Wow! What did you think, does the stuff
>> actually work?"
>>
>> Very quick thinking saves the situation (well done Scruff!). Could have
>> walked away, but stuck it out. This made it seem genuine, not like we
>> were running game or anything. We have a good chat about the book and
>> she thinks it's a good thing, its good for nice guys to learn, not
>> enough guys approach anymore and confidence is attractive. She also
>> says the ending is really good and makes you realise what its all
>> really about.
>>
>> Its time to cut it off, don't think I could save the situation any
>> more than I have already since anything I try she might know about -
>> like isolating. So decide to run something different. We ask where they
>> are going later since we have to dash to meet some friends. They say
>> they'll hang around in this bar for us, but will be going to blah
>> blah after and they might see us there.
>>
>> Of course later we do see them in the next bar, but they are just
>> leaving (we were late) but we stop and chat with them for while.
>> Nothing in the end but a shed load of IOIs for both of us, I suppose if
>> we hadn't have been late we could have got #closes, but who knows.
>>
>> I opened one more set before letting TovRa take the lead. I used the
>> method I described in one of my last posts. Open early, then leave and
>> re-open later. Situation opener - girl with weird gloves, quick chat
>> about them, tried to neg but she took it as a compliment. Then break
>> away.
>>
>> Spot her later and re-open on her and female friend. They are giving a
>> bit of a hard time reacting in a playful but difficult manner and I get
>> the distinct impression that her friend is cock-blocking. In hindsight,
>> probably should have given her more attention since I had already
>> opened on her friend once. TovRa and myself sit down next to them, but
>> we keep ourselves to ourselves. Wanted to see if they would re-ignite
>> the conversation, but nothing, definitely need to improve my game here.
>>
>> I'll let TovRa take over the commentary, cos after this, its all him!
>> Awesome work. Even his mates were astounded at him opening sets and
>> chatting to HBs. Very well winged!
>>
>>

>
> Thanks Scruff
>
> My part now:-)
>
> Hey everyone just have to say sarging with Scruff was great and i loved
> it.
>
> At Pool Bar:
>
> Set 3: Speed Dating (Really drunk Birthday Girl)
>
> Started with the speed dating routine on 2 girls not realising that
> there is like 9 of them in the group, found out that they are having
> birthday drinks and got introduced to the birthday girl who was really
> really drunk. This was my first approach but thanks to scruff I did it.
> She had also tried speed dating and she gave us valuable advice it was
> a 25 minutes of conversation with different friends of hers in the
> group.
>
>
> Set 4: If I wasn't gay you would be so mine routine
>
> We where on the floor dancing when two girls just appeared in front of
> us (HB5 and an HB8)
>
> TovRa: Wow girl if I wasn't gay you would be so mine (Music was really
> loud)
> HB8: well if you're engaged I should not be yours whilst she smiled
> TovRa no if I wasn't gay you would be so mine (said it like 4 times
> :-))
> HB8: you don't look gay you're not very feminine (touching my arm with
> a big smile)
> TovRa: Well I am the man (with a grin)
> HB8: so what kind of guys you like (touching my arm with a bigger
> smile)
>
> To cut the story short I had to show one of my friends and say this
> kind a guy with a good sense of fathom etc and act like I know how to
> be gay. We talked about dating white guys and how much she don't like
> dating white guys and she came up to the conclusion that I was not gay
> but a Bi while smiling and with lots on Kino, did not get a # close but
> it was an interesting experience spicily talking about my past guy
> "relationships" it was a 30 minutes conversation and we where invited
> to her place for drinks but there was just too much cock blocking
> happening from her friends so we just walked off.
>
> I wish i could add more but got to go work:-)