> awesome post dude!
>
> thanks, just what we need. i'm getting quite pleased with the number
> of field reports coming onto this place. seems like its heading back
> in the right direction. i need to work up a good one this weekend. on
> a date on friday night (but feel like she's definitely attempting to
> manouvre us into the 'relationship zone'... ooh, thats scary...) and
> i'm out on sat night again.
Yep. I'm definietely thrilled with the activity. Seems like a lot of
people are starting to join in now that there are new regulars here that
are more interested in talking shop than talking slop. The old guys must
be feeling left out, since the Gordo-bash-fest is taking a back seat to
ASF topics. ;)
I'm heading out tomorrow night. Not planning too much because my house is
a total disaster. No way I figure I could bring a gal back. Gone for two
weeks and the place is toast. Plus I've been lazy and not cleaning up. ;)
Sunday my neighbor is talking about having a housewarming party. Should
be a killer time. I think I need to get my shades cleaned up... the
future's looking bright.
> when i went out last week (after being hypnotised by my mates and made
> to feel like the mega Alpha king!) i talked to just about everyone.
> all the blokes told us to stay well clear of this club, 'Inferno', cos
> its the cheesiest thing since Brie, but all the HBs i talked to told
> us it was awesome and that they'd all be going. result: HB heaven!
> woo! and definitely a high HB to AFC ratio! thats if you can put up
> with rubbish music...
Hot strike. Keep telling the blokes that too. If they ask, tell them it
was totally lame. ;) No women at all. Haven't tried hypnosis or
subliminals yet. I need to find some MP3s or something I can use for
that, I suppose. I should work on NLP to get some anchors for myself too.
Oh well... I'm lazy. I guess that should be my first one to hit on...
"You feel energetic. You feel like working. Work is fun." :}
> On Oct 11, 3:03 am, speeding
biz.org> wrote:>> Yo!!!
>>
>> I'm back from my trip to San Fran and St. Louis. Went to a business
>> conference in San Fran for four days. It was a cool conference, but
>> it sucked for sarging, because there was almost no freetime at all. I
>> managed a few pale pathetic attempts, but nothing serious. I spent
>> most of the time in St. Louis visiting my Mom. So, nothing much
>> there. I'll mention a bit below, but be warned... it's
>> Booooorrrrinnnnnnnggggg.....
>>
>> Nothing on the plane ride out. Had a guy that weighed about 600
>> pounds sitting next to me, and I'm at the window. Why do airlines
>> always sit the sweaty, smelly, fat guys at the back of the plane and
>> in the aisle seats? Not a woman in sight. Even the flight attendants
>> were bad. Oh well.
>>
>
> man, thats awful! hahaha! they should be forced to sit in fat seats...
> a UK plane had to stop early this week cos it ran out of fuel before
> reaching its destination because the passengers were too fat! oh
> dear... well, i hope HBs dont go for fat guys...
The airlines here in the States have been complaining about the extra
fuel costs. Americans have some fat people. Says me, weighing in at 220
at 5' 9" with a 30%% BFI. Trying like crazy to lose it... but once it's
there, it's hard to get it off. But, I'm not too bad off... just a spare
tire. And if I hold my breath, it's not too bad! ;>
>> Got to the hotel and checked in. Cute little Asian gal and a stuck-up
>> blond. Neither were better than maybe a 6. But I played them both a
>> bit and tested out some C&F just to get some practice and see what
>> the response was. Not bad. But, I was already running late, cause I
>> had to check in and head right out for the start of the conference.
>> So, I couldn't run anything serious anyways.
>>
>> Now, I did meet a decent German gal. About a 6, but I gave her an
>> extra point because she had some seriously sweet melons just hanging
>> in front. ;) So I started chatting her up a bit and she was getting
>> into it a bit. I suggested we find a place more quiet to chat, cause
>> we were in the main hall, and it was very noisy. She said she was
>> thinking about getting a smoke, so she was ready to head outside.
>> Her friend that was a boy walked up. Don't know if he was a boyfriend
>> or not... I don't know German. But I do know stares. She said a few
>> thigns to him and him to her... sounded casual, like she was all cool
>> and just being freindly... and he didn't raise his voice... but he
>> didn't look too happy or trusting either. Smart guy. I know my
>> intentions were completely dishonorable!
>> So we headed outside and she lit up a cigarette and I had a cigar
>> with me and I lit up. We got to talking about (OH NO) politics. But
>> she was really cool about it. She thought that perhaps Americans
>> didn't like to talk politics and such. So we got to talking a bit
>> about how different cultures are and how men and women are the same
>> all over the world. How men want women and women want men and how it
>> all works. She was pretty into it, I figure... she lit up a second
>> cigarette when I was only about half done with my cigar. Wanting to
>> have a reason to stick around. But damn... some other faggy guy
>> spotted up talking before we got to moving on to an even more secuded
>> spot. I could tell instantly he was a part of her group and he could
>> tell what I was thinking. He said something to her and she got quiet
>> after that. I don't know German... but I have a feeling it was
>> something along the lines of "This is work. And your guy is up there.
>> Not down here." Plus, he wouldn't shake. So, I lost her. But, then, I
>> had no opportunity to get her in the first place, other than maybe
>> back to the hotel. And I'd be risking my job for that. No thanks.
>
> man, i love German women. i lived in Germany for a while and met some
> gorgeous girls over there. i say met, as i didn't get very far with
> most. man, looking back, i was a total AFC back then. even ended up
> back in this girls bedroom while she showed me her underwear
> collection, and i didnt know what the fuck to do! didn't get any
> action that night. especially when her ex turned up and they had a
> slanging match while i sat on her bed wanting to go home! hahaha!
Well... I wasn't that far in. I think I might actually be able to get to
home if a gal is showing me her underwear collection. But, this gal, I
think, was starting to get attracted and interested until the wanker
friend showed up. It doesn't help that it's a business/education thing
for us both and I'm sure she was interested in that too. It's amazing how
a group of geeks can be more interested in computers than people.
Then again...I'm typing this on Usenet, right? ;)
> but getting back to the point, i find german women very attractive.
> they seem to have a good sense of how they should be, and seem to keep
> trim. and they're really nice, they love to practice their english and
> will keep you chatting for ages just to do it! i've got to go back
> there sometime soon.
Yep. this gal wasn't a killer hottie, but she was in shape. Nice tits,
too. Physically, she was very decent. Her face and hair coulda used some
work, but body-wise she was great. I do think if wankerguy hadn't showed
up, we could have talked for quite a bit. Or maybe managed to snag a
shuttle ride back to her or my hotel room! I had a king size to myself.
From what I understand, most people there had to share a room. So, I
guess it would been my room. Alas... wankerguy hosed that up.
>> I also managed to head into a bar on the last night out there. A
>> decent Asian gal acting as waitress. I C&F/Negged her for taking my
>> friend's order first and "ignoring" me. She was laughing and smiles.
>> But she was kind of strange. She would come around, but sort of
>> ignore me, waiting for me to make some sort of comment first. She was
>> running some sort of game of her own. It was intriguing. She
>> definitely knew I was playing with her. I wasn't serious with her,
>> and I'm certain she knew it. But we bantered a bit.
>
> good looking waitresses probably get guys chatting to them a lot and
> know how to keep the convo going. they probably run the game in search
> of nice tips, but if you can really get their attention, they'll love
> it and allow you to talk for ages. better than the usaul "so what time
> do you finish then, love?" lines she normally gets.
Well, to me she wasn't that great. Nice body, but face coulda been
better. I like a nice face and hair as much as a nice body. It's a
package deal. Sure, I could go for a bagger, but why? But anywas, she was
doing the opposite. She didn't talk hardly at all. Almost like running
reverse game. If I had time to stick around for more than 5 minutes, I
think we could gamed back and forth pretty nicely.
I do think HB hired guns have a game they run. They know how to sweet
talk and flirt to get a tip. Hired guns are a fav of mine. To me, it's
too easy. The only problem is time. If they are busy, I can't run game
enough to get them interested and in a zone where they'll remember me.
And yep, "So, when do you get off?" lines seem lame. A good C&F line...
"I know you're not bringing me here for our date!"
>> I was there with a guy I use to work with and he was complaining
>> about some relationship issues he was having. Pretty bad, I'd say.
>> His gal was texting some guy she met only once. And he was so jealous
>> he was spying on her. He told her about it and she was actually
>> sounding happy about getting caught "not yet" cheating. But, I
>> figured I was doing decent because he was pretty amazed at how I was
>> doing. He had seen me crash and burn (more than once) when we worked
>> together a year ago.
>>
>> So, back to work. The last night they had a party kind of thing. Way
>> cool. Sort of. Throw about 2800 MAJOR GEEK men and 600 women into a
>> building together for a "party". Then, add a hula hoop gal that's
>> scoring 12 on a 10... two Chinese contortionists, two gals hangin off
>> the ceiling on ribbons, and a ribbon twirling woman to top it off.
>> Yeah. Great idea. About 1500 guys drop jawed starting at the hula
>> girl (she was hot, though... got to admit!) wiht a few stragglers
>> playing games and putting around. And alomnst all 600 women at some
>> level of distress/anger over the hotties getting all the attention.
>> Got to admit though... nothing like having one hot woman get all the
>> guys drooling to get the other women in the room more than happy to
>> have a tidbit of attention. Later, towards the end, I saw one of the
>> few decent looking women looking at a machine pretty intently, so I
>> walk over to her, pinch her (lightly) on the side and say "Careful,
>> it bites!". She smiles and we chat for about a minute. She seemed
>> pretty happy to have attention and was starting to IOI. And damn it.
>> Ring. And hubby walks up. Oh well, I make a graceful exit. MY friend
>> saw the whole thing and was asking "Did you know her?". Nope.
>> "REALLY! That's cool!".
>>
>
> man, that sounds like such a funny party! 1500 geeky guys, drooling
> like dogs and probably hiding mega boners at a bunch of hotties
> dancing away! hahaha! funny shit man, i have a crazy mental image in
> my head! and awesome for any person with a bit of self control to hit
> on the 600 or so other females. it sounds like they're all probably
> taken though. i bet they get snapped up really quickly when theres a
> 2.5:1 ratio.
Drooling an using camcorders or cameras. I haven't seen that many flash
bulbs go off since Game 3 of the Red Sox/St. Louis series. Guys just
stopped frozen in place like they've never seen a 3/4rs naked HB9
twirling a hula-hoop like Shakira in Hips Don't Lie. Okay. They hadn't.
Neither had I, for that matter. But if I can't touch it, I don't really
want to watch it. So, chatting up the other woman was pretty easy. But...
Yeah. Most of the women were married. Happily. The ones that weren't were
fat and/or ugly. But, it was still good for practice. I didn't figure on
getting anywhere anyways since I know they were sharing a hotel room and
since I doubt any of them (or me, for that matter) wanted to run a risk
of getting busted for fraternation. :{
>> Is it really that difficult for guys to do that kind of thing? I know
>> I'm still a wet behind the ears starter with almost no skills at all.
>> But, is it really that difficult to walk up to a strange hot woman,
>> pinch her side, and crack a joke to her? Shit, if so, I ought to be a
>> PUA God in no time. I have no problem with that at all. It's the
>> getting from small talk to sex talk that holds me back.
>
> oh yes, it is difficult. i know i always found it difficult. maybe not
> if i didnt find them attractive. but as soon as i fancied someone, i
> wouldn't really have a clue what to say and just felt awkward. there
> was no way i could approach. i still have a lot of friends who are
> like that and i try to help where i can, and most of them are amazed
> at how easy it is once you have a canned routine to roll off instead
> of thinking about it.
The opening is easy for me. I'm one of those guys that does stuff like
that scene from Ghost, where the guys are in the elevator and they start
talking about having some rash and it's contagious. CLASSIC! I've been
known to run Chinese Fire Drills on a date. If a gal joins in...I know
she's good to hang with. If not, she's not likely to be much fun
otherwise. Too stuffy for me. So opening is easy.
The first 2 minutes is cake. After that, though... that's when I get
stuck. It's that whole deal of shifting from casual chatting to trying to
be more intimate. I can run opinion openers or other things all night. I
can even just walk up and start chatting about stupid stuff... like
walking up to someone and asking them if they perfer the air drier or a
paper towl to dry their hands. But, small talk is small for a reason. It
dries out quick. And then it gets awkward. But, it gets there too
quickly, for me, to get to a point I can close.
>> Anyways, flight from San Fran home... Got to see a TRUE NATURAL in
>> action. I was sitting righ tnext to the damn engine. Couldn't hear
>> crap. But, the guy next to me was a fellow co-worker from another
>> city. And he's GOOD!. Starts chatting up the stewardess because her
>> hem came apart and she was stapling it together. Since it's the very
>> last seat on the plane, he gets to chat her up real good... and it's
>> easier since she's happy to chat with him. Couldn't say much or hear
>> much, but I watched him and hopefully, I'll have a bit more body
>> language ideas and such.
>>
>
> so cool, i would love to see guys who are really good at this show me
> their stuff. at the moment i'm going in blind. its not really a
> problem, cos its starting to work much better, and some of my friends
> like to watch me do my thing, but it would help to watch others do it.
Salesmen. Watch salesmen. That's what this guy is in. (now) He's going to
be great at it. People that work in sales or in HR or other sorts of
people interaction based work. If they are good, they can chat up anyone
anywhere about anything. They learn really quick how to keep a small talk
chat running. I can't. Eventually, for me, it just drops out. That's what
a wing is for... or so I figure.
>> Oh... and I almost forgot... one of the mini-camp type thigns they
>> had... it was more or less about sales and about customer relations.
>> Almost half though... N... L... P... How to watch eye movement. How
>> to gauge auditory cues on phone calls. The difference between Visual,
>> Auditory, and Kinesetic people. And that 80%% of the top 20%% of
>> business leaders are Auditory. Some books were mentioned and
>>
thewww.nlpu.comwebsite. VERY informative. And just imagine... someone
>> was discussing NLP for use in something other than Game.
>>
>> So, I guess that makes it.. game? Set? And match? ON.
>
> BN's been pointing out how all this can be used all over the place,
> not just in seduction. i think i'm going to have to learn how to apply
> it to work environments and improve other aspects of my life. i wonder
> if i can start training my parents? would make living at home easier
> (yes, i live at home, but i have only just finished uni, i can't
> afford my own place!).
I've been using it, to a degree, at work. It does seem to work nicely.
I've also used it on my mom a bit and on my ex. It doesn't work at all,
so far, on my ex. But I can make her really jealous if we go out and some
gal starts shining from it. she gets a bit miffed. But she'll never admit
it. But, I don't see my ex too often. Anyways, I do think it's got its
uses for everything. I'd be skeptical of a seduction technique that
didn't. I think we all know a guy that talks about his "great" ideas he's
invented... that don't work like that.
> work!
>
> Scruff.
>
