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Author: karmasarkarmasar Date: Jun 22, 2008 15:47
I've been here about four days, and I know this is going to get
swamped by trolls, but if possible some critique is welcome. I can
sense many sticking points, but obviously can't see them myself yet.
Friday:
Went to club with Winggayrichguy (winggay from here) and wingniceguy
(wingnice) and two 6's.
Winggay has a vip table for us, but pretty much the whole bar is like
that so no real social proof there.
I tell wingnice to pick out sets in the room for me to open, and he
begins choosing.
(note: i'm using some canned ancient stuff combined with whatever I
can come up with on the spot)
Set1: two guys, alpha looking, and an hb9.
I walk up and ask if I can use thier ashtray. I avoid all eye contact
and BL with the hb9. They respond by telling me they are using it (the
hb is smoking a cig) but I strike a convo with alphaguy1 because he
makes a comment about the club.
I talk about I club I know in chicago, he's from there. No BL or IOI
from the HBsmoking.
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Author: Ray Gordon, creator of the pivotRay Gordon, creator of the pivot Date: Jun 22, 2008 16:07
> Friday:
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> Went to club
And in the process, put a lot of money in the pockets of HBs and the
staff/promoters they are fucking.
Is your goal by posting to promote attendance at overpriced nightclubs
stacked with bought hotties who are unapproachable because their main goal
is to get guys through the door and paying a cover charge?
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Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
Finding Your A-Game:
http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From
Click HERE: for the ORIGINAL pivot chapter:
http://www.cybersheet.com/pivot.pdf
Here's my Myspace Page: And Pickup Blog (FREE advice)
http://www.myspace.com/snodgrasspublishing
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Author: karmasarkarmasar Date: Jun 22, 2008 16:11
On Jun 22, 5:07 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
cybersheet.com> wrote:>> Friday:
>
>> Went to club
>
> And in the process, put a lot of money in the pockets of HBs and the
> staff/promoters they are fucking.
>
> Is your goal by posting to promote attendance at overpriced nightclubs
> stacked with bought hotties who are unapproachable because their main goal
> is to get guys through the door and paying a cover charge?
>
> --
> --
> Ray Gordon, The ORIGINAL Lifestyle Seduction Guru
>
> Finding Your A-Game:http://www.cybersheet.com/library.html
> Includes 29 Reasons Not To Be A Nice Guy (FREE!)
> The book Neil Strauss and VH-1 STOLE The Pivot From ...
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Author: karmasarkarmasar Date: Jun 22, 2008 16:15
On Jun 22, 5:11 pm, karma...@ live.com wrote: > On Jun 22, 5:07 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
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>>> Went to club
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>> And in the process, put a lot of money in the pockets of HBs and the
>> staff/promoters they are fucking.
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>> Is your goal by posting to promote attendance at overpriced nightclubs
>> stacked with bought hotties who are unapproachable because their main goal
>> is to get guys through the door and paying a cover charge?
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Author: AlexAlex Date: Jun 22, 2008 16:43
in article tJGdnSD1JJ-1RsPVnZ2dnUVZ_jmdnZ2d@ pghconnect.com, Ray Gordon,
creator of the "pivot" at ray@ cybersheet.com wrote on 6/22/08 7:07 PM:
>> Friday:
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>> Went to club
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> And in the process, put a lot of money in the pockets of HBs and the
> staff/promoters they are fucking.
>
> Is your goal by posting to promote attendance at overpriced nightclubs
> stacked with bought hotties who are unapproachable because their main goal
> is to get guys through the door and paying a cover charge?
>
No one gives a flying fuck about you or your agenda, fr00t l00p.
Either give useful advice or STFU and let the adults talk.
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Author: AlexAlex Date: Jun 22, 2008 16:49
> And by the way NO cover, I bought NO girls a drink and winggay bought
> all of our drinks. Please comment on the methods, if you want to say
> something useful.
Here's some advice:
Stop being the dancing monkey. You're not there to entertain everyone.
You're there to pick up (unless I'm wrong and you're actually the evening's
entertainment).
When you've established interest, ramp up the kino-- don't leave and open
another set.
When you're being push-pulled (HBAsian into the kino but avoiding kissing
you), MOVE ON. Stop trying to figure out how to get this particular chick
and focus on someone else. It has the added advantages of finding someone
who isn't playing games as well as forcing HBAsian to stop playing games
with you.
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Author: karmasarkarmasar Date: Jun 22, 2008 16:58
On Jun 22, 5:49 pm, Alex nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote:>> And by the way NO cover, I bought NO girls a drink and winggay bought
>> all of our drinks. Please comment on the methods, if you want to say
>> something useful.
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> Here's some advice:
>
> Stop being the dancing monkey. You're not there to entertain everyone.
> You're there to pick up (unless I'm wrong and you're actually the evening's
> entertainment).
>
> When you've established interest, ramp up the kino-- don't leave and open
> another set.
>
> When you're being push-pulled (HBAsian into the kino but avoiding kissing
> you), MOVE ON. Stop trying to figure out how to get this particular chick
> and focus on someone else. It has the added advantages of finding someone ...
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Author: karmasarkarmasar Date: Jun 22, 2008 17:35
On Jun 22, 6:29 pm, Alex nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote:>> On Jun 22, 5:49 pm, Alex nyc.NOSPAM.rr.com> wrote:>
>>>> And by the way NO cover, I bought NO girls a drink and winggay bought
>>>> all of our drinks. Please comment on the methods, if you want to say
>>>> something useful.
>
>>> Here's some advice:
>
>>> Stop being the dancing monkey. You're not there to entertain everyone.
>>> You're there to pick up (unless I'm wrong and you're actually the evening's ...
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