> OK, I worked with my target today, she says she was at the mall from
> 10:15pm till 11ish, and that she went inside the theater to save gas.
> I'm not sure if I believe her, but it *is* possible that my friends and
> I missed her car. And she *does* have a cell - a prepaid one with no
> minutes left.
>
> I did some more kino during fluff talk, then about 10 minutes before
> the store opened, I took her hand and said 'I want to show you
> something'. Gave her the IOI hand squeeze, she did squeeze back, just a
> little. I ran 'the cube' on her - not sure if that was a good idea -
> she had some bad stuff floating around in her head. Plus, as I was
> doing it, a small crowd kinda gathered. Not Cool when you're doing
> something personal like the cube. She was really getting into it till
> the crowd started to gather. Then I had this idea to get become the
> center of attention (social proof / group theory) by making it kind of
> a carnival type thingy since everyone was saying stuff like 'do me!'
> 'me next!' etc. So I ran it twice more (made one guy nervous/freaked
> out that I hit so close to home).
>
> I'm thinking what I should've done when people started to come over was
> say something like "this is kind of personal, get out of here". Not
> that they would've done more than go out of sight and within earshot...
>
> Anyway, work....
> After work, I was just relaxing in my car, thinking about what I was
> going to do tonight, when my target pulls her car up next to mine, and
> asks me if I want to go bowling tonight (group of people from work, not
> 1on1). I tell her maybe. She asks if I have to work tomorrow night
> (thurs), I don't, do I want to do something tomorrow night? I tell her
> yes, and that I'll give her a call.
>
> So. I'm pretty sure she's interested despite my mistakes, and that
> Monday night was not a blow-off.
>
> Comments?
>
> On Nov 15, 3:54 am, "Scruff" googlemail.com> wrote:
>

>> Hey dude,

>

>> thanks for the First FR, and welcome (i don't recall seeing you here
>> before, so guessing you're new).

>

>> i don't think you've done too much wrong as such, she does sound like a
>> flakey kind of person, and i still think you can get this back, and if
>> you do, you will be in total control, cos she knows she's fucked up.

>

>> can't believe she doesnt have a mobile?! what is she? like 1980s girl
>> or something?!

>

>> On Nov 15, 6:13 am, "Tha Merryman" gmail.com> wrote:

>

>>> Ok, so I'm a little rusty....

>

>>> I was working yesterday (Monday) with this HB 7.5/8 (we're both
>>> waiters), I wasn't thinking of game, I was more trying to figure out
>>> how I'm going to pay all my bills this month. She's flirted with me a
>>> couple time, but I didn't think anything of it (she's a HB waiter and
>>> flirts with a lot of guys) until she started kino on me. So I start
>>> thinking 'Hmm... I better take advantage of this before my window of
>>> opportunity closes (screw the bills =P)'. I start running a little game
>>> on her - turn my back when I don't have her attention, demonstrate
>>> social proof ('answer' my cell and make 'plans' for tonight with my
>>> mates) > when I mentioned drinks tonight (on my cell) I mentioned
>>> 'caribou lou' - that sort of stuff.She sounds flakey right from the start, very flirty and good with guys.

>> she's a hired gun, so she might have been in the work frame of mind and
>> she was treating you like she would any of the male customers. she
>> might not be quite like this away from work though.

>

>>> She comes up to me after my social 'proof' (he he I love my cell phone)
>>> and asks what a 'caribou lou' is (151 rum, pinapple juice and malibu -
>>> delicious) and whether she could come along with me and my m8s to have
>>> some fun tonight. I think to myself, 'I'm not easy, I'm not an AFC, she
>>> needs to qualify herself some' , so:your mobile phone can be your best friend in seduction...! specially if

>> it has a camera on it. and spot on with the making her qualify herself,
>> although maybe you could have done that before you asked her to come.
>> same diff though, you bounced it right.

>

>>> ME:"Ok, but one condition - don't tell me to turn my music down. I love
>>> my system, and I'm addicted to bass." You should have seen her eyes
>>> light up and sparkle when I said that =D.
>>> ****Note: in my area, there aren't lot of women who like really loud
>>> music
>>> HER: "You have a system?? I want to hear it right now!"
>>> ME: "No. The customers might get mad and I'd get in trouble. Listen to
>>> it tonight. Give me your number and I'll call you when we're on our
>>> way."
>>> HER: "Ok, my number is xxx-xxxx."
>>> ME: "Alright, I need to get going, I have stuff to do"
>>> HER: "Ok, see you tonight."played that well i think, although by saying that the customers would

>> get mad and you might get in trouble does make you sound a little
>> wimpish. you could have pushed her off as demanding and told her when
>> you will let her use it, puts you more in control. you're not going to
>> show her cos you don't want to, not because others might get mad.

>

>> Example: "Ha! What am i? some trained monkey? I'll show you tonight
>> when you meet me, now get back to work."

>

>>> So I go out to the parking lot and get in my car, start playing some
>>> music while I get ready to leave, when she sees my car (I didn't
>>> notice her approaching) and gets in. Crap! She turns my stereo up about
>>> halfway (and thats pretty darn loud with my system) and changes CDs.
>>> She's testing me. I get back in my car, turn down the music, switch
>>> back to my cd, and
>>> ME: "please don't touch my stereo."
>>> HER: *trying that little kid innocent thing* "I just wanted to hear
>>> it..."
>>> ME: "I need to get going"
>>> HER: "Okay, I'll see you tonight"that would piss me off, getting in my car, fiddling with the stereo,

>> changing my music. my car is my space, i'm surprised you weren't more
>> pissed! i'm actually trying to think what i would do if a girl did that
>> to me... i'd probably tell her to get her greasy hands off, and fuck
>> off out my car... but if i was playing...:

>

>> probably slap her hand lightly and say "oi! keep your hands off the
>> merchandise, you've got to earn the right to ride in my car. when
>> you're driving, you can listen to your own stuff." all in a cocky funny
>> way of course.

>

>> you did pretty much the same thing, except you said 'please'.. now it
>> does depend on how you say it, but the word please sound more like a
>> request than an order. don't ask her, tell her. dominate. you can't
>> have a girl get into your zone and dominate your frame.

>

>> you're right, that was a total shit test, and it might have put me off
>> (depending on how hot she was). you might have to switch it around a
>> little and make out she's made a mistake and she's fucked up her
>> chances with you.

>

>>> ........shower, shave, clean car, etc.
>>> ...Call target at 8pm (to make sure the number was real)
>>> .........call around to find someone who will buy me alky
>>> I get the alky, and my homies, (who I hadn't planned on coming) got a
>>> hold of my phone and asked my target if she had any friends she wanted
>>> to bring along. She didn't. I thought long and hard bout giving them
>>> both black eyes. But I didn't.mates.... grrr

>

>>> ***Messed up - acted needy >>>>>>...Call target at 9pm to let her know
>>> that things were taking longer, but I wasn't ditching her.that doesn't sound too needy to me, you told her you were running late,

>> thats fine. you could have re-ignited some of the interest by
>> mentioning a shared joke or something. re-sell yourself and the
>> evening. but to be honest, it sounds like your mates could have
>> seriously put her off. whats more off putting than having some randoms
>> you don't know phoning you to ask if you have any fit friends, then
>> realising its probably going to be just her and a pack of randy guys.

>

>>> ....Obtain alky
>>> ....Phone target at 9:30pm to say get ready we're on our way - we'll be
>>> there in 45 minutes (Was about 25 min away, allowed for traffic, etc).
>>> Let's meet at x mall.
>>> ....Phone target at 10:15pm - No answer.

>

>>> ....Go to wally world to get pineapple juice and a mixing container

>

>>> As we're walking out of wal mart, I see a HB7/7.5 who got fired for not
>>> coming in on one of her shifts. Knew beforehand that she liked Vicadin
>>> (hydrocodone), alky, etc from one of her AFC friends. But once again I
>>> had concentrated on making money instead of getting laid.
>>> ....couple minutes of fluff talk

>

>>> ME: "Come with us! We've got Caribou Lou!"
>>> HER: "What?"
>>> ME: "151 rum, pinapple juice, and malibu! Come with us and try it!"
>>> HER: "I can't - I've got to go back to [AFC friend]'s house. I'm
>>> staying there for a few days till I get another apartment."
>>> ME: "Well give me your number then, and I'll call you and we can have
>>> some of this delicious beverage."
>>> ****I had the 'girls with naughty habits' comeback ready
>>> HER: "What's your number?"
>>> ME: "You first."
>>> HER: "xxx-xxxx"
>>> ME: "Okay, I'm calling you right now. My number should pop up"
>>> /\to prevent fake number/\
>>> ....Entering cell numbers....
>>> ME: "Cool. We've got to get going now. See you later."
>>> HER: "OK, Call me soon!"

>

>>> ....Friends saying 'damn she's hot' 'nice job getting her number' etc

>

>>> ......10:23pm drive around mall parking lot looking for target's car -
>>> no luck
>>> ......Phone target - 'she's not available'
>>> ........10:45 Phone target 'she left like 25 minutes ago for x mall' -
>>> turns out she gave me her home phone number. Whoever answered the phone
>>> (mom or sister) said she doesn't have a cell. Quick reverse lookup (my
>>> cell has 'net access enabled) reveals that she lives 12 minutes away
>>> ****She's either gotten into a wreck or she isn't coming

>

>>> ........11pm - decide to leave. Come to the conclusion that the target
>>> either blew us off or we missed each other driving around the mall (it
>>> is a very big mall)any news on...

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