"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot""
cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:rLGdnd2kwK3m9KzbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@pghconnect.com...> Might be unique to where I live, but the bus stops in this city are a GOLD
> MINE for gaming.
I disagree. Women at busstops are on the defensive...big time. Too much time
is needed to disarm.
>
> First off, SEPTA takes FOREVER to arrive, so you'll usually get 10-15
> minutes to gain rapport with your target, such as happened tonight.
>
> I was catching on one of the few buses that travel between where I live
> and center city, and as I was approaching the bus stop, I saw this
> BEAUTIFUL German chick (didn't know she was German until I talked to her),
> sitting on her bookbag, which was resting on the pavement. Some men would
> call her a 7.5-8, few would call her lower, I found her to be at least a 9
> and built to last. Turned out she was 19 years old.
19........snicker.
>
> Fortunately, I have an approach worked out for just this situation, and
> it's based on a sincere observation. I tell her "The way you are sitting
> is so sexy.
You open with that at a busstop? LMAO.......if she wasn't afriad then she
sure is now...way to go Ray. NEVER OPEN with sexual comments. You can only
do this at certain places and events, maybe a dancefloor.....but not at
night at a busstop for gods sake.....lucky you didn't get maced.
90 percent of the women around here would either be afraid of getting
> dirty or being seen sitting that way. I bet you're very down to earth."
> Instant rapport. She says she's from the countryside. I guess Kentucky,
> she says Germany.
Least he is talking to one, if any of this is true. But you have skipped
openers and went straight into trying to build rapport using mind
reading.....NO way in hell are you going to get instant rapport as a BUSSTOP
after those two statements.
>
> I ask if she's Miss Germany on tour in the USA, and she plays along saying
> she is. She then tells me she's an Au Pair who is in the country for a
> while. I tell her "I hope they're paying you well because you're leaving
> a lot of money on the table" and mention that she could easily model (she
> could and should).
Women are sick of hearing the model line. The model line has to be very
subltle and delivered at the right time, deliver it wrong and you come
accross as a supplicationing.
Turns out she's the "adventurous" type who isn't too
> concerned about money (at least until her future husband shows up), but
> her room and board is covered, and she gets to travel. Money of course
> could win this game easily by making it unnecessary for her to work; odds
> are she'll find that soon enough.
What are you saying, pull out a wad of cash and she'll do you?
>
> The bus takes a while to show up, leaving an opportunity for a
> conversation about the "princesses" in the area. I praise her from a
> "social butterfly" frame in that I don't even ask her name, and don't
> intend to #close her. Odds are I'd run into her again anyway down the
> road, and if not, there are always others.
You praise her?.....what I would like to see is the whole conversation from
this interaction if it happened.
>
> Conversation is going great when the bus arrives, and I correctly decide
> to play it cool. There's no point in trying to close her in front of a
> crowded bus, especially since I was "reverse peacocked"
HAHAHA...whatever.
(i.e., not dressed up, not
> that she cared), and having a nice conversation alone while waiting for
> the bus didn't necessarily mean she wanted to be picked up while on the
> bus. I sit down, read my paper, and let her choose where she wants to
> sit. She sits directly across from me, but the bus is crowded.
>
> I don't do what every pathetic PUA would do and ask her where she's going
> or try to follow her, even though I could have found an excuse to get off
> the bus at any stop (just the way my city is laid out). Insetad, I
> figured she'd get off the bus before I did, and give me a drive-by
> goodbye. Had she done that, I would either have said "see ya, gorgeous"
> or let some type of parting compliment.
Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>
> As it turned out, I got off the bus and began walking up the street. I
> glace up from the sidewalk, for an instant, only to find her making direct
> eye contact with me, smiling, and waving, which I had figured might occur,
> since I allowed her the discretion of interacting with me in sight of
> others or not. As she waved, I blew a kiss back to her (without using my
> hands), and kept walking.
Blew a kiss without using your hand......do that in amirror and see how
stupid it looks
>
> At the very least, she'd be a great pivot, and the type of hottie who
> doesn't discriminate against men at least for LJBF, and damn if she's not
> the hottest German chick I've ever seen. Definitely a keeper, and not
> afraid to get her clothes a little dirty in the big city, so not a
> princess.
>
> The "social butterfly" concept is useful for club game because the guy who
> keeps his "club life" separate from his real life and doesn't try to
> #close any chicks he talks to will find that they seek him out at his
> regular hangouts because a) they haven't been able to reject him yet; and
> b) they have no other way of getting in touch with him. Women have no
> problem relying on this, knowing guys will find them, so men who apply
> this concept in reverse tend to have an advantage.
What it is, is a good way to never see the girl again. The BIG problem here
is the same with Ray. NO conversation to amount to anything. Either this did
not happen or he will not post what was said....if anything.
Anyway, if this is true, I do not see whaere you accomplished anything other
that having a chat with a nice girl.
If you want to be taken at your word, do it again and tape the conversation
and post it along with your other notes.....BET HE WILL NOT DO IT.
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